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All Things Google: Google Groups

October 14, 2010, 3:00 pm

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As academics, it’s not unusual for us to need to be in touch with several different groups of people that are related to our scholarship, our service, or our wider interests as human beings. We’re lucky to have email to help us manage this communication. Email allows us to transfer information quickly and saves us from having to go to a different website to stay updated. But there are difficulties to using email for group communication. First, one can easily leave people off a message. Second, depending on the storage capacities of your email system, you might not be able to keep a record of all the messages related to a particular group’s project.

In today’s entry to our ongoing series “All Things Google“, I want to talk about one possible solution for managing group communication: Google Groups. In short, Google Groups provides a simple way for a group (natch) to have discussions in an online forum or over email. The advantage of using Google Groups over a forum or email is how it seamlessly blends the two interfaces.

Reading Threads

Those who prefer to read and reply to conversations through a website can do so using a familiar, threaded discussion format.

Google Groups Web Interface

But if you’d rather have these conversations arrive in your email box, you can choose to receive them in three different ways: (1) an immediate email as soon as something has been posted; (2) a digest of up to 25 messages bundled at once; or (3) a once-a-day abridged email summarizing the day’s new activity. Each member of the group can choose which setting works best for her needs. I tend to choose the first option and get all of my group messages as soon as they’ve been posted. Reading your Google Groups email is especially nice in Gmail since the messages are organized by thread – just like reading them within the Group.

 

Creating Threads

Creating a message thread is easy whether you use the Group website or email. If doing the former, you simply click the “New Post” button and fill in the form on the page that follows.

Create a new post

Starting a new thread is perhaps even easier by email. Each Google Group has its own email address. Emails from the Group are sent from its address. But Group members can also create message threads by sending an email to that address. The message then gets posted to the website – where people can read it – and it is automatically sent on to members of the group who have elected to receive emails.

Replying to Threads

Replying to messages on the website is predictably easy. Click reply, say what you must, and you’re good to go.

When working by email, you simply reply to the message that you have just read. When your email gets to the Google Group, it will automatically get threaded into the conversation where it belongs. It seriously feels a little bit like magic.

Creating and Managing a Google Group

It’s very easy to create a Google Group. You just have to provide a group name and description, create an email address (with the domain @googlegroups.com), and decide whether you will make the Group public or not. Once that’s done, you can start inviting members to join your Group or adding them directly. As the owner of the Group, you will have some control over who can see group content, who can join, whether or not messages need to be moderated or not, and more. All of these settings for access live under one easy to comprehend tab in your “Group Settings.”

While Google Groups gets an “A” for simplicity, it’s visual design is much more of a “C-.” Still, one can customize the colors of individual sites, using some themes that Google has provided or by choosing your own color schemes. (Feel free to take Ethan’s advice for a “Web Design Tool He Can’t Live Without” and use Kuler to get a nice color palette.) Since I personally use email for interacting with all of my Google Groups, I have never been too concerned with their appearance, but it’s nice to know that there are some options out there.

In addition to managing your own groups, you can browse public groups for that might discuss topics related to your own interests.

Using Google Groups

In a sense, Google Groups works very much like a listserv. The advantages of Google’s tool is that it is easier to join, leave, and control the frequency of messages. With Groups, you just choose from a couple of radio buttons rather than having to send arcanely formatted text strings to the listserv in the hopes that this time you’ll get the result you want.

Perhaps the best recommendation I can give for Google Groups is to say that it’s one of the two tools that we at ProfHacker use to discuss our business, scheduling, and partying world domination writing. (The other tool is a wiki.) So this post is very much a case of eating our own dog food. But there are other ways to use Groups. As you can perhaps tell from my images, I’m using it to help organize THATCamp Southeast. But one could also use Google Groups as a discussion forum for a class that one is teaching.

How are you using Google Groups for your own teaching and research?

[Lead image by Flickr user gregloby / Creative Commons licensed]

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8 Responses to All Things Google: Google Groups

tbdiscovery - October 15, 2010 at 9:41 am

I don’t use many Google programs, but this is one that I use often. I’m a part of several different international academic groups, some of which would not be active without the presence of the Google Group. It’s so easy to communicate with others, from all over the world, that we reach out anytime a question comes up.

drjeff - October 15, 2010 at 9:57 am

I guess on the Wiki is where y’all decided that even male writers should adopt “she” when referring to a person of unknown gender.

Generally, it’s considered good form to avoid stylistic choices that cause your readers to stop mid-sentence, wonder if they missed something, then continue, a bit puzzled.

Granted, I’ve been known to use “(s)he,” which is only somewhat better, but still…

drjeff - October 15, 2010 at 10:02 am

As in: “Each member of the group can choose which setting works best for her needs.”

maburns - October 15, 2010 at 10:18 am

I’ve found that Google Groups provide terrifically functional tools for collaborative activities. The discussion list generated is wonderful as described above, but it is the combination of the listserv generated and the “pages” and “files” features that is particularly compelling. So, a group easily communication through the discussion feature, but can work together on documents using the pages or just post information to this area that essentially provides one or more web pages for the group. I’ve always wanted the full functionality of a Google document in the pages area, but the tools that are there suffice. Then there is a files feature where the group can upload any pertinent files related to group activities for everyone to access. Of course, information about the members of the group can be found there too and variations on the functionality available to them can be controlled by the manager of the Google Group, in case you don’t want some members to have full editorial privileges.

But, there appears to be trouble in paradise. Perhaps ProfHacker can contact Google to find out more, but it looks like the pages and files features will no longer allow for uploads come November and Google Groups are disappearing from the Google toolkit in February. Google currently recommends using Google Documents and Sites instead, but then we lose this wonderful combination of all three things. I’ve heard other Google tools may be changing too, so it would be nice to obtain obtain more news about the reliability “All Things Google” for the future. Meanwhile, I’m looking for other alternatives.

tbdiscovery - October 15, 2010 at 10:57 am

Is there a site or program that provides access to temporary listservs and archives the conversations? Although the file-exchange aspects of Groups is helpful, I could live without it if I could create listservs as international projects come up.

lkesler - October 15, 2010 at 11:40 am

Can anyone comment on how user-friendly Google Groups is for non-academic lay uses, particularly those who are not digital natives? Specifically, I work with a lot of volunteers who use e-mail, but are nervous about anything that sounds more complicated than logging into an e-mail account provided by their ISP. Though I can see potential benefits of a Google Group for these groups, I’m not sure how much it might strain their comfort level.

tbdiscovery - October 15, 2010 at 12:58 pm

lkesler: If you set up the group, all they have to do is accept the invitation (they should create a Google account, if they do not already have one). The fantastic part about GG is that it can motivate even the slowest responders. They can simply reply to the listserv or they can get really involved and use the forums (which are e-mailed as a listserv) and post documents. At its barest, GG is a functional listserv that is easy to use. Yet, even the file sharing and forum functions are easy for novices to use. You could even send a tutorial as an e-mail blast to get everyone involved.

Perhaps the most important part is the group name, as the listserv e-mail address will be based off of this. You want a name that differentiates the e-mail and group from their other e-mails. This way, they’ll see the e-mails and maybe want to get involved.

briancroxall - October 15, 2010 at 8:42 pm

@drjeff: I can’t vouch for other writers, but I’ll own up to my own stylistic quirk. But I shan’t apologize.

@maburns: You’re right that Pages and Files in Google Groups are going away. The imminence of that disappearance is why I didn’t mention the feature in my post. I haven’t used these features all that much, but it’s understandable that you and others who use it will miss the feature. I’m sad to report, unfortunately, that ProfHacker doesn’t quite wield the power necessary to make Google pay attention to us. Yet.

@tbdiscovery: I’m not sure that I understand your question about temporary listservs. How different a functionality are you imagining than what Google Groups already has in place?

@lkesler: I agree with @tbdiscovery that Google Groups is very easy for non-techies to use. If you’d like, there is no reason to interact with the system through any other means than email. It doesn’t get much simpler than that.

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