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When Student E-Mail Attacks

July 21, 2010, 3:05 pm

E-mail may be a useful tool, but academics are drowning in it, thanks in large part to a growing tidal wave of silly student messages, the Berkeley law professor Mary Ann Mason observes in her most recent Balancing Act column. It’s “not just e-mail messages from professional associates, friends, family, and spammers that demand our attention,” she writes. “Students, sometimes by the dozens, e-mail their instructors daily, seeking an immediate response” to “trivial or inappropriate questions, like ‘Sorry I missed class today, can you send me the lecture notes?’” (Sound familiar? If not, check out this 849-page thread in The Chronicle’s Forums in which professors share their “favorite” student e-mail messages.)

Gems such as this one

It has come to my attention that you have an attendance policy for our class of which I did not know because I did not read all of the syllabus before now. I object to this policy as it will hurt my grade and I want to protest that to you in very strong words. This has happened to me many times before that these policies exist and I do not read about them until I have skipped to many classes which is why I am so upset that this has happened to me again. It feels like all the teachers at this school are out to get me because everyone has the policies and it always sticks it to my grade in the end. So in this case I would hope that you would think of me the student and not use this policy on me since its been used so many times before already in other classes with other teachers. Its just not fair to keep it up on me.

… or this one

I forgot to ask you about the homework, im a little confused on how to fill in the blanks.

… (both excerpted from the aforementioned thread) may elicit a chuckle, but they’re no laughing matter for professors who find themselves taking time away from sleep or family to keep up with the incessant stream of messages, Mason writes:

For faculty mothers and fathers, e-mail eats up the extra hour or more a day after they have put the children to bed and prepared for the next day’s teaching—or perhaps the hour before the children or the sun rise.

It is the third shift in an already overcrowded day.

So what’s a professor to do? Well, you could just say no to student e-mails, like one Mount Holyoke senior professor whom Mason talked to: “I just don’t allow e-mail,” the professor said. “They can come to office hours if they want.” But setting reasonable boundaries—e.g., limiting when you check e-mail, cutting how long you spend checking it, not responding to every message immediately—might be a less drastic solution.

Better yet, suggests Mason, “Shouldn’t it be routine university policy to promote clear guidelines about the use of e-mail between faculty members and students? That would benefit not only parents, of course, but, particularly for mothers, limiting the third shift may make the difference between academic survival and burnout.”

That would be nice, but until that happens, you’re on your own.

Share your silly student e-mails and your tips for keeping them at bay. What limits do you set, and how well do they work?

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arthurblum - July 21, 2010 at 4:24 pm

It should be quite clear that the writers of the e- mails cited do not belong in any institution of higher education. Simply grade the e-mail, and include it in the student’s final grade computation. Of course, you will have to announce that all e-mails to you will be graded and “counted” in this manner….I suspect that the mere announcement will reduce your e-mails to almost zero.Old guard

profmomof1 - July 21, 2010 at 4:54 pm

The e-mail deluge starts long before the semester — I receive dozens upon dozens of e-mails at registration time, from students trying to register after a class has filled, asking me to let them into the filled class. Just replying no doesn’t always work, then they come back with a litany reasons why they should be admitted. Then there’s the e-mails about the exam study guides — where I list the general topics they need to be familiar with (all the info on those topics is found in the lectures and/or textbook). There are always some students each semester who request that fill out for each study guide topic all specific information that will be on the test and send that back right away via return e-mail. After all, it’s too much work to expect them to look those things up in their notes or the book!

susangautsch - July 21, 2010 at 6:18 pm

Indeed, institutional policies on email is like institutional policies on communication. The email issue is just one example of the ‘information and communication’ overload issue that everyone in the modern world has (i.e. not just faculty!) It’s a brave new world, and the ones with the best filters, aggregators, and explicitly clear personal policies (and not-so-explicit deviation tolerance) will win.

puretoo - July 21, 2010 at 6:36 pm

Many arguably absurd inquiries, such as the examples provided above, can be nipped in the proverbial bud by employing advice once given to me by the late Steve Nock, and which I paraphrase several times every day in telling students that I won’t do something for one student that I can’t do for everyone – such as ignore the syllabus, re-invent a grading schema, provide extensions after deadlines have already passed, or provide new opportunities when the semester is already over. (Nock also suggested that I write shorter sentences, lol.)

mpressley - July 21, 2010 at 7:06 pm

This is a “spot on” article. And I loved the first post. This summer, I stated in my syllabus that my policy is one of not responding to Emails OR Blackboard discussion questions during Sat., Sunday, or holidays. The result has been wonderful: I’ve got my weekends back. Moreover, the students seem to have accepted it and I haven’t gotten any negative feedback on this yet. (We’ll see what the evals bring.) For those who have policies, would you please Email them to me at mpressley@cox.net? (OMG, what am I asking for?!) Seriously, I’m thinking about requesting a departmental, possibly a college, policy on this and would like to hear from those who have done so.Please note that I will not grade them and include that grade in your overall grade. Also, please accept my thanks in advance.

alan_kors - July 21, 2010 at 9:08 pm

I disagree deeply. My students, in my view, are the individuals I have the privilege to work with, and, indeed, they are the reason I have this wonderful way to be in the world. I give my students first priority in answering emails, and if anyone writes inappropriately, it just takes a sentence to let them know that, and why. Set the parameters, and enjoy them. It’s a joy to teach.

landrumkelly - July 22, 2010 at 12:55 am

Make clear up front which e-mails you will respond to–and which you definitely will not.On the other side of the coin, there are some legitimate challenges and concerns which students can send which are often ignored. The potential for abuse goes both ways.

vikagardner - July 22, 2010 at 5:51 am

Some email systems (like Google) have standard responses that you can choose from for common questions, so that saying the same thing doesn’t have to be so tedious. I’m with alan_kors — I like my students as individuals. College is about socialization as much as anything else. One needs to model what one expects.

kjmitch - July 22, 2010 at 7:22 am

Set the standards for your class regarding your expectations and be done. Remember, without students we are not needed.On a side note, “For faculty mothers and fathers”?!? Oh, give me a break! Everyone has responsibilities that extend outside of the office. This article is a classic example that academia creates exception only to faculty with families. What about the single person who has to take care of a household on her own or maybe would like to go to the gym at night? Or heaven forbid, have a social life? Get over yourselves and realize that the system has made extreme exceptions for you already. Answer the emails and stop your whining.

optimysticynic - July 22, 2010 at 8:23 am

Another idea: make it clear to the student services/advising/orientation personnel that learning how and when to contact faculty will have a huge effect on their success as students. This is a skill like any other which our simultaneously spoiled but ignored students have never been taught in their families. (Remember the old days when the young were expected to hang around with adults and learn their ways?)

optimysticynic - July 22, 2010 at 8:24 am

And I forgot to add this: we need to stop rewarding beggary. When students hear that one of their colleagues has by-passed the system through begging, they realize that “playing by the rules” simply makes them a patsy. Stick to your guns!

11242283 - July 22, 2010 at 8:43 am

When dealing with student email, I try to put myself in their place. How do I feel when I send an email to someone that is ignored? I would prefer to be told that they couldn’t answer my question or even that my inquiry is inappropriate than to send something off into the ether and never get a reply. I have no hesitation in telling students that their request is inappropriate, that the answer to their question is in the syllabus/on the webite/was dealt with in class (get someone’s notes) and that I will not answer it again. I try to do this in the kindest way possible since perhaps one of the things they will learn in my class are things like respecting the time of others. Why should I “punish” them by ignoring them or treating them like the enemy? I can’t tell you how many times a student has responded to me that they were astonished to get a reply from me because so many of my colleagues never answer email (including, I might add, email from their colleagues!!).The question then is how to keep email from taking over your life. As others here have commented, you set boundaries, be clear about what you will and won’t do — and then do it. I would say, though, that if you are not going to look at email on weekends (which I agree with), then maybe having a paper due or a test scheduled for a Monday morning isn’t the greatest idea. Honestly, with very few exceptions, students just wait for your answer, they don’t keep bugging you (“I sent you an email half an hour ago and still haven’t received a reply”) and for those who do, I merely let them know when I do answer them that their constant emails are unnecessary and should cease. If students trust you that they will get a reply, then most of that kind of activity will stop. Remember, you are not being unreasonable to tell students that you do not answer email after “X” time in the evening or that once you go home you are with your dog/cat/family and don’t do email. Email is a pretty passive form of communication and, honestly, you get to choose when you respond to it. To my colleagues who don’t come to work but 2 days a week because they are (supposedly) doing reseach, you lot might want to consider answering email for at least a while during the day on those days you refuse to show up on campus. And finally, thank you #9. I am so tired of faculty “mothers and fathers” who seem to think that whatever the issue is, they are uniquely and specially affected. I know the protesters will weigh in with reasons why they are sooooo special and their work lives are sooooo hard and why I am sooooo mean and why my work and my life are not only easy but really insignificant/unimportant/selfish in contrast to theirs and their chosen role as parents, but increasingly it seems like every single aspect of our jobs conflicts with their family life. In their heart of hearts, they seem to want the university to send them a check for 18 years in return for very little return effort at all.

esfreeman - July 22, 2010 at 9:06 am

I don’t want my family life privileged at the expense of your going to the gym, but since my kid will be paying your social security, I’d like a little respect for what I do. Or are you planning on not drawing from social security?Stick to the topic of e-mail, please. Lordy.

russhunt - July 22, 2010 at 9:11 am

I’ve been encouraging students to use email since the early eighties, and I am completely astonished that anybody feels persecuted by a flood of email. I don’t deal with email except during my normal work hours, and I feel no obligation to respond instantly (the whole point of email is that it’s asynchronic). I do know that I’ve regularly heard people complain about “floods” of email from listservs that actually produce a dozen messages a week. I guess different people have different ideas about what constitutes an inundation. Put a note in the syllabus about expectations regarding email, and be done with it.

providencepocket - July 22, 2010 at 9:24 am

This is a fascinating thread! Since I teach writing, and email is a major form of communication my students will encounter after college, I usually take the time in class to deal with how to write an email with the appropriate tone. I give them examples of effective and ineffective ways to communicate something (missing a class, asking for an extension, offering a point), and they usually see right away how a negative tone will predispose the reader to dismiss their request. The last time I did it, I wished I had done it sooner because the emails I received after that point were completely different in tone and clarity of purpose. This is a generation of twitterers and bloggers; they need to be taught how to write for different modalities.

11242283 - July 22, 2010 at 9:30 am

Hey #13, your kids might be paying for my Social Security, but my taxes pay for loads of things (schools, parks, ballfields, etc) that I get very little personal benefit from but which you and your spawn use. I don’t get your tax benefits, esp. since in many areas of the country (even in recession) single faculty members have a hard time buying a house (there goes the mortgage deduction).Mason’s original post (to which this one is sort of a followup) somehow took this generic issue and implied it was an especially difficult problem for “facutly mothers and fathers”. Every person in Mason’s essay was identified by their parental status and the profusion of email was blamed for getting in the way of family life and one more thing that needed to be done after the kids went to bed. So for those of us w/o kids who innocently clicked on yesterday’s piece thinking we’d learn something about how other faculty deal with this problem, we got hit with yet another discussion of special problems of academics with kids. If you don’t have children, this aspect of the article really did just hit you in the face. So rather than attack #9 and me, why try and hear what those of us who feel increasingly excluded from any discussion of faculty life or work/life balance issues are trying to say?

shopkow - July 22, 2010 at 9:41 am

While I do get the occasional email of the sort the article complains about, I don’t get many. At the beginning of each course I tell students that they are responsible for what is in the syllabus whether they read it or not. And I explain to them that I’m an older person and I actually go to bed, and therefore, that any email they send me after 9 in the evening will not be answered until the next day. For the most part, though, my students don’t use email ENOUGH, because they’ve already moved on to Facebook and texting, and email is old-fashioned.If they have a legitimate question (and I consider not understanding an assignment a legitimate reason to email me), email is a fine way to ask it. But often they’ll come up to me in class to say they didn’t understand the assignment, when it is too late. They seem not to come to office hours any more.Leah Shopkow

willynilly - July 22, 2010 at 10:07 am

Maybe it was the era, or perhaps it was the position I held, but for me, the greatest distraction caused by email came from silly messages sent by faculty – not students.

clasfaculty - July 22, 2010 at 10:23 am

For goodness sake, interacting with students in the office or through moodle,blackboard or direct email is our repsonsibility as teachers. To be sure student questions may be silly and often annoying. If you can’t live with that, change professions. This generation is no more difficult to reach than previous ones.

scottr - July 22, 2010 at 11:41 am

For me it’s simple, when I go home I go home, I don’t look at work email away from work. This (decision) has nothing to do with enjoying students or not (I do), it has to do with allowing myself to have a separate life from my profession. What part of our job description (teach-research-service) requires me to always be “on”?

ecantu - July 22, 2010 at 11:52 am

My policy is that I only answer student emails during office hours provided they include all proper information: Student’s full name, course, group and class. If they email after office hours and I happen to see their email on my iPhone, I will only answer if the question can be addressed with a simple yes or no, or can be explained in two sentences. If the answer requires more than that, then I wait until it’s office hours again.

layokk - July 22, 2010 at 11:53 am

I have to laugh at all the childless, offended posters. You seriously don’t get it. Most of us parents (especially of very young children) NEVER have the luxury of “the gym,” “social life,” or relaxing. I waited until I was 32 before I had my first child and holy crap it changed absolutely everything. I looked back in amazement at my pre-child days and realized just how easy I had it. What a self centered person I was to actually think I was ever busy. Sure, I might have a busy day but then if I wanted I could just relax that night and recover. As parents, we NEVER have that luxury. Day in, day out it’s the same thing. We work our ass off all day and then come home and work our ass off all night. Please spare me your self indignant rant. Until you’ve walked a mile in their shoes…

x1234 - July 22, 2010 at 12:22 pm

I layout in my syllabus that I will only respond to emails on Fridays. If they need to contact me I’m available before and after class in my office. Universities, students, and professors all survived before the advent of email. Just because it’s there doesn’t mean we have to give it a special place in our relationship with our students. I have found that students tend not to pay attention in class because they can always email me later. My policy tries to put a little more pressure on them to answer their own questions (which they can do 99.9% of the time), and to pay attention in class. For some students email is an escape hatch, if they can’t get the answer fast enough they email me for the answer. I’m sorry, but there needs to be boundaries, at least for me. I’m a teacher, and there should be limits in any relationship. Just because I’m a teacher for a public university does not mean I should expect to be on call 24/7.

katelr - July 22, 2010 at 12:38 pm

1. I have a clearly stated email policy in the syllabus, including appropriate salutations and closings, appropriate language (including grammar and spelling), and the fact that I can take up to 24 hours to respond. I also state that I will not respond to “what did I miss in class,” and I make everyone exchange phone numbers and email addresses with two other students on the first day. This doesn’t always work, but it helps. I may change my time-frame to 24 hours AND I will only respond during working hours.2. I find giving a syllabus quiz useful to help me enforce my email policy and the rest of the policies in my syllabus. It generally counts toward the overall homework/quiz grade. I always include questions about email policies, attendance policies, and late work. I am thinking about making them retake it if they bomb the quiz.3. To #12, who is so concerned about tests and assignments scheduled on Monday if the professor isn’t going to answer email over the weekend, and anyone else who thinks that the students CAN’T POSSIBLY SURVIVE without our email responses, how on EARTH did we do things 15 years ago? How on EARTH did we do things 10 or 8 years ago? Before email was so ubiquitous, I seem to remember students had to speak with faculty and TAs just before or after class, ask questions in class, or go to office hours. Heaven forbid they have to step outside their dorms, walk across campus, and speak with their instructors in person.4. With #3 in mind, I am considering taking on a more Luddite policy. I’m thinking about either a) restricting emails to arranging disability accommodations (after we’ve already had the beginning of the semester meeting in my office), informing me of absences because I like to know students are thinking about class, and arranging meetings outside office hours OR b) doing away with email entirely. We’ll go back to doing things the way my mother did them. I’ll expand my office hours to make up for the loss of email, but I will only be available just before class, during class, just after class, and during office hours. It’ll be a Little House on the Prairie approach. Or a “I trudged up the hill both ways in the snow barefoot” approach. It will make them see that life can be done without email (and perhaps remind me of the same).If I go with a #4 option, I probably won’t go too extreme. I think, however, that making them come see me for questions will encourage independent thinking and a greater rapport between us. I think they can learn more if they come to see me. I may have to be a little more lenient on grading whether they follow the directions, but I think this could be a very useful and instructive experiment.5. I get that having children makes people very busy. It’s also, I understand, very fulfilling. All those things single people do when they’re not taking care of children are done to find fulfillment outside of work as well, particularly seeking out friendships. Many single people become very dependent on their “urban families,” because we all need human contact, whether we choose to have children or not (or haven’t had the opportunity yet).While I respect people’s choice to have children, academics or not, it is very easy as a single person to feel overlooked by society and institutions. It’s not an issue of one type of person being rewarded and another not. It’s an issue of fairness. For a period of my life I was living just above the poverty line and without health insurance. If I had a child, I would have qualified for multiple government programs to cover my healthcare. Because I was single and childless, I had no support and ended up with a serious illness and no coverage. This is just one example of how childless people are often left out in the cold. Yes, people with children struggle. But people without do as well, and that needs to be acknowledged.

11242283 - July 22, 2010 at 12:46 pm

layokk — boo, hoo, hoo. “What a self-centered person I was to think I was ever busy” — just another way of saying what a self-centered person you are now to think that no else is ever busy but you and other parents.You don’t get it do, you? Being a parent is (these days) largely a choice. You don’t get to choose to do that, then spend the rest of your life demanding special priveleges because you made that choice and demeaning those who didn’t. I understand that you feel that those of us without children have it easy (of course, this is based on the way you were before you had children not on my or anyone else’s life) but the point is that you aren’t entitled to make that judgment. Private life is private life and everyone gets to have one whether or not they decide to have children. The implication of the original article that somehow email is a special burden for “faculty mothers and fathers” because either it cut into their family time or had to wait until after the kiddies went to bed was that if you didn’t have kids you could/should just tuck into those emails anytime because you didn’t have anything better to do.It is common for those of us without kids to pull in the infirm parent at this point: “well, you might have kids but I’m taking care of an elderly parent who requires me to act as full time nurse when I get home from work and this is just as hard as taking care of kids, so there” —- but I’m not going to do that. It doesn’t matter how I use my time away from work, it’s mine. You don’t get to judge how I use that time. I really am sorry that you are overwhelmed with the tasks of parenthood — really — but that doesn’t give you and other parents the right to hijack all conversations about work/life balance and make them about you. It also doesn’t give you the right to throw departments into disarray because none of the parents is willing to do anything before 10 or after 2:30. Honestly, if I told the dept that I couldn’t do something at 3 p.m. because I had to drive to a second job (because as a single facutly person I couldn’t afford the rent on a safe place — let alone buy — in NYC, SF, LA, etc.) or if asked for an extension on my tenure clock because I had to work summers to make ends meet in a way my colleagues with 2 incomes don’t — well, I’d be laughed out of the dept. Yet, most of the parents in my dept want to do their job at their own (not the depts., not the students’) convenience and still be paid a full salary. Sorry, I know it’s not p.c. or anything, but call me one female faculty member who is fed up.

jcbrnmr1979 - July 22, 2010 at 12:48 pm

I am rarely surprised or shocked by anything I see online anymore. From incredulous, whiny emails from undergrads to behavior in online forums, I have come to the conclusion that generally, people come off much worse online or in email than they do in person. What is shocking, I think is how quickly the discussion here in the comments not only veered off topic, but also turned ugly. This was an article about inappropriate behavior in email communication. The sense that I got was that the authors really were attempting to get good advice and tips from readers as to how to handle the barrage of emails. Some of the advice that was posted was actually, quite good, I think (a tip of my hat to x1234 and ecantu). Instead, the discussions were hijacked by a discussion of the virtues of parenthood versus childlessness. Perhaps this is fitting, given that so many feel that their classes are being hijacked by the lazy, the whiny, the unprepared and the just plain thoughtless. Shouldn’t we be trying to model the behavior we’d like to see?

cordelia - July 22, 2010 at 12:51 pm

My university is trying to get us to use Facebook and Twitter for our classes. So in addition to responding to email, I’m now supposed to be in contact 24/7 on three systems?BTW, they are mistaken in thinking that this will engage students more. One of my supplemental instructors tried to institute a class Facebook page a few years ago, and the students’ response was, “We don’t want school invading our personal space!”

dschlack - July 22, 2010 at 1:12 pm

I agree with #18! I really can’t get too worked up about any of the relatively few inappropriate student e-mails I have received throughout the years. They pale in comparison to a series of truly vicious e-mail diatribes I received a few years ago from a faculty “colleague.” (And I should mention that this person copied the e-mails to the entire department and to some administrators. Of course, these messages actually made him, not me, look bad, but still, the whole episode was distasteful and difficult to deal with.)

prof3703 - July 22, 2010 at 1:13 pm

My limit is that: everything that has been discussed in class or on Syllabus will not be explain again in emails, I clearly identify it in my first session that emails are only for a quick and fast communication to inform news.

duchess_of_malfi - July 22, 2010 at 1:17 pm

Alan Kors at #6 said it. I teach 300-400 students a semester, encourage them to email first even if they would like to meet face-to-face, and get a lot of mail. It’s not increasing and it’s not a problem. It’s part of the job and a useful part because I can help them become better students by doing it. Many of them are unsophisticated; some of them are rude. These are not difficult things to fix. But none of their emails is silly.It seems to becoming a practice of CHE columnists to take a writing shortcut by using fora posts. Prof. Pennywise did the same thing this week.

wendypiquemal - July 22, 2010 at 1:29 pm

I’m not sure what the fuss is about–if a student is asking something impossible or inappropriate, it’s usually quicker to deal with him/her than with students whose request actually warrants real explanation or assistance. I have a 3 sentence formula which has never failed me: 1) express sympathy for the student’s alleged plight2) spell out their responsibilities in this situation (aka “why this is your problem and not mine”)3) indicate what they can do to help themselves.”I’m sorry you were unable to come to class. As per course policy, it is your responsibility to catch up on what you missed. I recommend you ask to borrow a classmate’s notes.”"I’m sorry you were so shocked to discover my attendance policy. Unfortunately I cannot make an exception, as it is your responsibility to read the syllabus and be aware of course policies. The only thing you can do now to ensure the highest grade possible is to work hard on the remaining assignments–feel free to come to office hours if you think I can help.”"I’m sorry you are having trouble with this assignment. However, I can’t help unless I know what exactly is “confusing” you. Please go over the relevant course materials, re-read the homework prompt attentively, and if you still have specific questions let me know what they are.”

elkeathley - July 22, 2010 at 1:40 pm

I find most e-mails I receive from students to be legitimate or at least sincere, though often ill-timed. I do try to answer e-mails if I can do so briefly, or respond with a request that the student visit me in an office hour if it is a more complex issue.I like the #15 suggestion of teaching students how to communicate by e-mail, and I think I will try that, but I also have stock answers for those inappropriate questions that sometimes arise, sort of like FAQs. For example, in a case like the first example of a silly e-mail, I would write, “Hi, X, thanks for your message. As I pointed out on the first day of class, you are responsible for knowing and adhering to the policies on the syllabus. I’m happy to meet with you in person to discuss this, if you have further questions. My office hours are on the syllabus. See you [next class meeting]!” The student thus receives an answer to his/her message, but, I hope, also learns that 1) s/he is going to be held accountable, and 2) taking exception to a course policy is not a matter for e-mail (and in fact I say that in the syllabus). I actually have the body of this message on a document I can cut and paste into e-mail if I’m feeling especially indolent.If the student e-mails me again on the same issue, I don’t answer the e-mail, but I might call her/him aside after class and ask if s/he would like to come to my office hour, where there is a completely different dynamic.

ghostlight - July 22, 2010 at 1:49 pm

Now who’s wasting time making us read all this fodder?

hire_ed_cav - July 22, 2010 at 2:42 pm

#24 – I give a syllabus quiz as well, and my students hate me for it; that’s how I know it is effective. I also have a rule that for any emails, they have to be related to content or material. Any other questions can be answered using my (perhaps) over-structured and over-detailed syllabus. I actually like answering emails relating to the content of the course. *takes off nerd glasses*

cbmma1 - July 22, 2010 at 2:43 pm

Wow! Amazing what something simple like this can unleash. Do we forget that we can also ignore emails? For example those from students trying to get in your (full) course? If you ignore them, the worst that will happen is that they will show up at the first class and you’ll tell them in person. I announce simple email policies at the beginning of a semester and stick by them. That has never resulted in me being overwhelmed by email. I even tried “virtual office hours” on Blackboard using the chat line. Nothing better than answering questions at home in the evening, when you are already in your pjs… Just set limits and stick by them. As for the time commitment, etc. Yes, academia is time consuming, so is medicine, the law (ask a young lawyer about his/her time commitment) and a ton of other professions. Being a parent is *always* extremely time consuming and a huge commitment (I know from experience: three kids, now grown). It is also a choice and yes, you do make professional and personal sacrifices when you have kids. That is NORMAL and happens in every profession. For a while my wife was on the road a lot, for weeks or months at a time, and I had my three kids to myself. My scholarly production suffered, obviously. My classes did not (priorities, folks). I always had time for my family, gladly, because the kids did not ask me to be born, so I have a commitment to them, but it is also obvious that there is only so much that an organization can do to accommodate my logistical problems. After that point, it is my choice. I could get a straightforward 9-5 job, one where after 5 nobody bothers you. In other words, an academic position is not different from many other jobs. There are pluses and minuses, choices to make, and you need to learn to live with the choices you make.

gloriawalker - July 22, 2010 at 3:44 pm

Even deans at my school expect the same as the above students. As a tenured faculty person at a state institution there was no win. I was made to look as if I was an idiot if I did not make adjustment for students like this. The union and faculty senate did nothing. How do you survive such?

cranefly - July 22, 2010 at 5:00 pm

#22: Many of us ARE parents as well as having this job. We can’t take evenings and weekends to also work, because we DO want to have a life outside of work, and that includes time for family.Until you’ve walked a mile in our shoes(during an 80-hour work week) please don’t criticize.

teachingteachers - July 22, 2010 at 5:24 pm

I hear so many people on here complaining about email. Ignoring your emails or refusing to use email altogether isn’t the answer. I don’t give my students rules for emailing me, any more than I would give them rules for asking me questions after class. The only thing I ask is that they give me 24 hours to respond. If they send me a ridiculous email, that’s an opportunity for me to teach them that their expectations are unreasonable. If I have a student who refuses to accept a decision, I simply tell them the matter is closed, and they can email the Associate Dean if they’re unhappy with me. Students don’t all come into college with the same understanding of what’s appropriate. It takes a simple email (or sometimes two) to set them on the right path. Previous posters have repeatedly mentioned that students survived just fine before email, so they should be fine now if you don’t respond to them. I respectfully disagree. Just because that’s the way things used to be doesn’t mean that it was better. Isn’t it a better learning experience for the student if they’re working on their paper on a Saturday afternoon, have a question about the criteria, email me, and receive a quick response so they can keep working? It’s better for me also, because I receive higher quality work; I spend less time correcting errors in papers because students can get their questions answered prior to turning them in. Students have lives outside of class too, and many of them aren’t able to attend the 3 hours when you might be sitting in your office. They also may not realize they have a question until they’re at home trying to work with the content independently. By using email, the students who need help can get it, and dealing with the ridiculous emails is a minor annoyance. If you manage your time well, then you can get all of your emails easily answered with a half hour at the beginning of the day and a half hour at the end, with one brief check-in on weekend days when a paper is due Monday. Is that such a sacrifice to make to improve the experience of your students? Like it or not, a big part of your job is to be a teacher, which means you owe your students a quality educational experience. You have to connect with your students where they are, and that means email.

tsteofilo - July 22, 2010 at 8:18 pm

My favorite email:”Hey. This fall im appling to graduate school and i cant have a c grade in this class because they wont accept me because my gpa will be to low. please tell me how i can rise my grade since the quarter ends in 2 days. Thanks.”Pure genius. My response was that clear deadlines were given for all assignments along with explicit instructions and grading rubrics. Can I also mention that “Hey” is not an appropriate greeting when emailing an instructor?!

eryx1959 - July 22, 2010 at 9:33 pm

For those of you with children who think you and you offspring are the center of the Universe, may I recommend:http://www.amazon.com/Baby-Boon-Family-Friendly-America-Childless/dp/0743242645/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1279848286&sr=8-1I personally am happy to pay property taxes for schools and parks. I’m an (elected) trustee of my local library, and a considerable amount of our time is spent on increasing access and outreach to children (many of which are dropped off or are told to make their way there as a cheap form of after-school “day care”).Can we get back to the thread, please?

mastodon - July 23, 2010 at 2:38 am

#25 hit the nail on the head: “Private life is private life and everyone gets to have one whether or not they decide to have children.” Another article that might explain some of the sentiments here: http://nymag.com/news/features/67024/

humprof72 - July 23, 2010 at 3:38 am

I now refuse to accept email because “at risk” students who most needed to come to class or see me in the office tried to substitute email, and flunked out. I tell them, “I don’t accept email because I WANT to see you. I want to talk to you face to face.” I can evaluate someone and motivate someone if I can get them into the office. Watch for patterns like that. It may only be my working class university, with its older students, but I doubt it.

academic2000 - July 23, 2010 at 9:39 am

providencepocket, can you point us to any resources that would help us to improve our email writing? Teaching it in a course is a great idea.

honore - July 23, 2010 at 10:02 am

…or just learn to press the “delete” button…it is life-altering.just because it arrives in your in-box doesn’t mean you have to acknowledge every piece of electronic inanity sent to you…

tfriel - July 23, 2010 at 2:43 pm

a couple of things…use your outlook filtering tool to send student emails to a file folder that you look at during specific times. Also put in an auto reply to those filtered emails that indicates your policy about them so that every time they email you, they get an immediate reply about how you will handle/when you will reply/if you will grade, what are the criteria for the grade etc. Finally..so many faculty seem to mistake “coddling students” with educating them… preface your statements to them reinforcing the idea that they are in training for the business world. They are adults and therefore responsible for themselves and the rules and expected to read, prepare and respond appropriately to those rules. Failure to do so will affect them in undesirable ways…much like the world of work. Faculty are not their parents and college is not high school…main difference is they are now adults and expected to act like an adult. I see many students who want to complaiin about faculty or classes or grades…I start every discussion with this preface. It often changes their perspective.There are times when email is appropriate at work and times when face to face or phone calls are better. They should begin to learn the difference now. Faculty who teach them these things will be doing them a big favor and help them be more successful upon graduation. Faculty who have big battles and don’t set limits are not teaching students anything except dependence…counter to what we should be doing.

janyregina - July 24, 2010 at 7:18 am

Thank you providencepocket!!! Email from students should never be ignored unless the purpose is to ignore the student. Ignoring someome trivializes them and makes them feel meaningless. My role, even if they are begging or scamming, as I see and feel it is to be there to answer questions. Yes, a few take advantage. But, they can be dealt with without ignoring them. Email is another valuable tool.In teaching online classes at my college, communication is essential. In regular classes, it helps me to know that someone is ill and won’t be in class.I teach psychology and I have taught reading, so perhaps my perspective is different. Anything that involves my students in literacy is important.

sdblogger - July 27, 2010 at 11:09 pm

I have found these suggestions really creative and helpful. It was challenging to sift through all the comments, so if you would like to read my summary please visit http://www.studentdevelopmentblog.com/2010/07/27/managing-student-emails/. Thanks for all the great ideas!

mkmurata - October 12, 2010 at 7:29 pm

My rule in all my classes is that e-mail questions with my responses go back out to the entire class. That avoids most too trivial or too self-indulgent communications. M. Murata (UC Irvine)

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