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Separating Truth From Fiction

November 9, 2011, 11:34 am

During her fall break, my younger daughter and I hopped on a plane and took the first of what will likely be several college tours. After a couple of days, she ended up with a definite “maybe” and I ended up with a severe case of cynicism. Those of us in higher education don’t cut others too much slack, so I’ll admit to being a tough customer, but still, I found the experience more disturbing this time than I did when we went through the same drill with our older daughter a few years ago. Have things gotten more competitive? Hard to know.

During our first visit, we were treated to an exceptional overview session with a top admissions official and an energetic, well-rounded, and overachieving student with a triple major. After the presentation, one of the parents asked how many students apply and how many are actually accepted, and the admissions guy actually pretended to have to do math in his head to come up with the numbers. Given that the place is considered “highly selective,” I know for sure that he has those numbers memorized. It was weird, and I’m still trying to figure out what that game was all about. Later, the faculty-student ratios he boasted about during the PowerPoint presentation turned into apparent fiction when both our student tour guide and officials at the college level admitted that the place might be prestigious, but overcrowded classes were a serious issue. Throughout the day, I became increasingly uneasy as the “points of pride” covered during the morning orientation seemed to unravel as we talked to more people off the official agenda. What was true and what was not? I still don’t know.

It occurred to me that the college-visit experience is a lot like the campus visits we do during the hiring process. Glossy brochures, interactive Web sites and well-orchestrated campus tours can mask the downsides or even dark sides of an institution, and it can take some pretty serious sleuthing to sort out the real facts.

Have you ever been fooled during the campus visit? What methods have you used to determine what an institution is really like?

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  • edadvocate

    I’ve followed Paul Quinn for a couple of years now and I have been impressed with some of the rather unique solutions they have implemented to differentiate their institution. I followed them with some sadness as they were facing their accreditation issues – however, they appear to have crossed that bridge with flying colors and based on the news reports, they are financially stronger now than ever.

    It saddens me to see people like melissastep attempt to minimize those accomplishments with what appear to be baseless allegations wrapped in what can only be described as the illiterate ramblings of a high school student that could likely use the kind of education Paul Quinn provides its students. As Dr. Gasman correctly points out, President Sorrell isn’t just attempting to create an exceptional institution, but he is also at the forefront of leading the revitalization of the southern sector in dallas and the farm is just one component of that effort.

    The irony is many people want to talk about the accreditation issues that faced the college in the past, however, very few actually understand how accreditation works or what it really means. SACS and TRACS are both recognized by the department of education and CHEA, the 2 primary accrediting agencies for accrediting bodies. TRACS process and standards are as high or higher than SACS’ and the number of schools represented has no bearing on the quality of the accrediting body. I believe I read that earlier this year the college received full accreditation from TRACS, which appears to speak volumes about how far the institution has come in a short period of time.

    I think everyone should heap more praise on those HBCU’s that are doing the right things to take them into the 21st century and not dwell so much on the past – good or bad. The great HBCUs of the future will be determined by what they do over the next 5 years – not what they did over the last 50. Times are changing and too few of them are adjusting with the times – which will be to their detriment.

    I look forward to hearing more great things – not only from PQC, but also from other HBCU’s and I hope more get this kind of positive exposure in the Chronicle!

  • ccluc002

    I think many prospective students can suss out the feel of a place despite the glossy show – and can transfer if they find they really miscalculated. Your afterthought question regarding hiring is much more crucial in my eyes. If you uproot your family to take a job, you’d better know what you’re getting into. You must keep your eyes open for people who appear not to have drunk the kool-aid and who might answer your questions candidly. I’d rather lose a job for asking pointed questions than move and realize I’m in a hellish pit of despair – which I have done and am a landlord in a city 7 hours away to show for it.

  • bbaylis

    Vaillancourt has hit upon a serious issue that is plaguing higher education in a number of different ways. Not only do institutions “put up a front,” “tell their best story,” or “stretch the truth a bit” for prospective students and employees.

    However, in my 40 years in academic administration, I have also seen what appears to be an upturn in this same ailment affecting potential students and potential employees applying for jobs. When I first began in higher education administration, the number of faculty and administrative applicants who would pad their resumes with patently false information was much less than 3 years ago when a medical condition forced my retirement. In terms of these applicants, I have always sensed that adminsrators and faculty “knew enough to put their best foot forward” on applications without lying. However, in the past 10 years, there seem to be more reports of falsifications appearing. Every month there seems to be a report in the Chronicle about a President, a VP or a coach who claimed a degree that they didn’t have.   

    Twice during my career, I had oversight of the admissions and financial aid offices. Once early in my carerr, it was direct oversight of both offices for a year as “Interim Dean of Admissions” The second time was at the end of my career when I was provost and the admissiions and financial aid offices reported to me, In the first stint, I don’t remember having to confront many students who were caught stretching the truth on their admissions or financial aid applications beyond reasonable bounds. In my second stint, the direct managers of these offices would complain weekly about the number of out-right  fabrications on applications with which they had to deal.

    As I have studied the history of American higher education, I find this disease has apparently always infected institutional relationships with potential donors. Seveal of the early presidents of the colonial colleges which were reportedly founded to educate young men to serve as leaders of the colonies and the colonial churches, elected not to pursue support from the established colonial churches. In many of the presidental  fund raising letters to potential wealthly donors, the stated reason why these donors should support the colleges was because the colleges were an insurance policy for these wealthly families assuring their sons an education that would guarantee these sons could inherit their rightful place of leadership in society.      

    This same ailment affects inter-institutional relationships the relationships of institutions with their accrediting agencies. How many institutions prepare slick reports each year just before the US News & World Report ranking ballots are sent out. These reports are sent to the presidents, chief academic officers and chief admissions offices of institutions that will vote to determine the reputational rankings. These brochures make the institutions sound like the best thing since slice-bread, praising the facilities, the award wining faculty and students and the very successful athletic teams comprised of all 4.0 atheletes

    Self-studies were originally meant to be an opportunity for an institution to honestly appraise its good points and short-comings, and propose soultions to those short-comings. The self-study visit was suppose to be an oppotunity for an institution to receive the benefit of the insights and knowledge of others in higher education in analyzing itself and proposing solutions to problems. What happened to those days and who is to blame?

  • mister_anthony

    If she is a Traumatic Brain Injury survivor do not believe anything the disabled student services says – they will lie.  Read my experience -> http://members.cruzio.com/~awwalton/disability/access1.html

  • ebrownst

    One cannot blame institutions for putting their best foot forward. We are looking now and have been on 9 visits so far. With my daughter, she’s decided her priorities. There are two things that have given us the most helpful information: Ask specific questions and Meet with a professor.

    Example questions:  “How many students are in your introductory biology class (we usually ask the student guide this question)? How many students are in your upper level major classes this semester? What undergraduate research have you done? Have you published it? What international experiences have you had?”

    Professor meeting: “How many students graduated from your program last May? What are they doing now (this is essential because my daughter would like to go to graduate school)? If they are in graduate school, what schools are they attending? How many first year majors do you have this year (this helps to understand how many students persist)? How many women are at each stage (is the institution friendly to women)?”

    By asking a student and a professor, we usually get honest answers. For example, each institution we have visited reports to have a class size of about 20, but only one has an introductory biology class of less than 40.

    Good luck!

  • michalzwro

    anthony thank’s for link

  • Prof_truthteller

    Ha ha that’s easy- look them up in the Chron. Seriously, look up some articles about the college in the library. If there have been any scandals, they will be news. Also ask for that mandated crime report. And, look up some news about the town or city. I once applied at a college in an area I was not familiar with, and the newspapers had articles about chronic gang and drug related crimes, and several toxic waste spills nearby. I withdrew my app.

  • drphilthethrill

    I see this regularly at my university. Academic circle is freshly manicured, the dining hall is loaded with out of the ordinary delicious food, and the energy level of school administrators skyrockets (though overall, they are very genuine in what they say and do. I found that when I entered school, it maintained almost all of the characteristics that the admissions coordinators promoted.) I think the best way to find out what it will be like when you actually attend and are not there for a visit is by talking to the students around campus. They’ll tell you the truth and the pros and cons.

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