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April 21, 2011, 2:09 pm

Community colleges can no longer fly under the radar. Too many people have been paying too much attention to us lately, including the President of the United States.

On balance, that’s a good thing. Those of us who labor in the trenches at “democracy’s colleges” have been waiting a long time for people to pay attention to us. We’re rightfully proud of the work we do and pleased that our vital contributions to society are finally getting the recognition they deserve.

Still, because most of the attention is coming from politicians, I worry about a few things.

One is that increased recognition is bound to bring additional scrutiny and calls for accountability. Of course we don’t object to people looking closely at what we do. I’d be happy to have a gaggle of state legislators sit in on my classes, provided they keep their cell phones turned off. Nor do we fear being held accountable for our stewardship of the public money we receive. I dare say we do more with less than any other sector of education in the country.

We just want to be judged fairly, which means not being held to the same standard as four-year colleges. An institution with an open-door policy, accepting high-school dropouts with GED’s, students returning to school after 20 years, and nonnative speakers, is simply not going to have the same output as an institution with highly selective admissions.

Those who judge us also have to recognize that, for community colleges, graduation rates are not the sole indicators of success. Many of our students just take a course or two, or transfer after a year. Even those who do stay two years sometimes leave without bothering to pick up an associate’s degree.

I’m not saying that graduation rates aren’t important or that two-year colleges can’t do a better job of prodding students to walk across the stage. I’m just saying that anyone who wishes to evaluate our effectiveness has to understand the inherent differences between community colleges and four-year universities.

Another thing I worry about is that all of the clamor for “accountability” will lead to some sort of nationalized curriculum. Some might think that would be a good thing, but I disagree. A distinguishing feature of the community college is that it exists to serve the specific needs of its community. And because community needs vary widely, the way colleges serve their communities is bound to differ.

At the recent American Association of Community Colleges convention, I met a colleague from the United Kingdom’s “further education” sector who was lamenting his country’s nationalized curriculum and course-approval process. Further-education institutions (as opposed to “higher education” institutions) primarily offer vocational training, and, thus, are roughly analogous to (but not exactly like) our community colleges.

“The problem,” he said, “is that you might have a college located in an area where there’s a large plant that builds helicopters, and so there’s a need for workers with those specific skills. But the national aeronautical curriculum might only address airplane-building. It might take years to get the curriculum changed to meet that local need.”

Years to get the curriculum changed. Imagine that.

Finally, I worry that so much of the attention paid to community colleges has focused on “workforce development” — to the exclusion, I fear, of the liberal arts. Yet more than half of community-college students nationwide come to us with the intention of transferring to a four-year institution, which means that teaching the core curriculum — essentially, the liberal arts — is one of our primary missions.

For that matter, a strong foundation in the liberal arts may be even more important for those students who plan to earn degrees or certificates and then immediately enter the workforce. If they spend only two years (or less) on our campuses, then whatever exposure they get to the humanities and social sciences while there will likely be their only exposure.

In his speech to open the convention, new AACC President Walter G. Bumphus called for his audience to become stronger advocates for community colleges. I second the motion. But as a two-year college humanist, I’d also like to add another challenge: Those of us who teach liberal-arts courses on two-year campuses must become stronger and more vocal advocates for the importance of what we do. We must make it clear that community colleges exist to educate the whole student, not just to crank out human widgets for the economic machine.

Otherwise we may find that, although our beloved colleges have finally taken off, we’ve been left standing in the terminal.

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  • http://www.amazon.com/Debating-Holocaust-Look-Both-Sides/dp/1591480051/ref=pd_rhf_p_t_2 Michael Santomauro

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  • Dr_Zachary_Smith

    I have no doubt that both “right” and “left” in and out of academe have aspects of the “tribal-moral community.”

    Which one has a greater tendency not to question sacred tenets? (Heck, which one freely admits to hewing to sacred, unquestionable tenets?) Which one is more rigid, more ideological, less likely to skepticism?

    These are not difficult questions to answer, although the answers may be uncomfortable for the NAS.

  • gypsyboots

    Several generations ago, college professors still saw themselves as a “moral-tribal” community, but one defined by commitment to specific disciplines and/or a shared vision of humanistic eduction that overrode (at least partly) political ideologies. Since the 60s, the political “tribe” has trumped very other, especially since disciplinary identities (especially in the humanities, but increasingly ini the social sciences also) have blurred and become weakened.

  • juliewhite

    Really well-said, Rob. You capture the salient issues concisely and effectively!

  • softshellcrab

    I am sorry, students who come into my not-particularly-prestigious state university from community colleges far too often have gotten a pretend education. We do NOT accept their higher level classes due to the lack of rigor at CC’s. Our school is fairly rigorous, not overly so, and still we are about twice as rigorous in my teaching discipline as the CC’s are. Their problem probably stems from the fact that there are many students there who are not that good, and I always say it is difficult to teach above the level of your students.

    I consider them to be overblown high schools. I would advocate, either shut them all down (less preferred) or more preferred, demand real standards in teaching there. And for the love of Pete, get rid of hokey studies in things like hotel etiquette or HVAC repair that are laudable and necessary topics for technical school but not for true colleges.

    I know many of the readers will say the quality of their CC is good, etc. Maybe it is! I can only comment on the ones near to me, and their quality and rigor is not high at all. Of course that idiot Obama is paying attention and loves CC’s. He wants more “degrees”, not more education.

  • polisciguy

    As someone seeking a full-time CC job in the humanities, I share Rob’s concern that the call for government-engineered accountability will ill-fit the typical student body of a community college. While I would encourage a strong separation between workforce development and further academic focus, community colleges were designed to give students a first chance who don’t have the financial means and don’t want tens of thousands in loans when they graduate eventually from a four-year institution, or a second chance for students who may not have done so well in high school.

    Some of our students are not headed to four-year institutions, some are and should be headed there and some are headed there and should not. It seems to me that softshellcrab has encountered the third type of student. I wonder how many CC graduates he has encountered in his classes who do meet the standards of his “not-particularly-prestigous state university” but have not reveal their educational pedigree because they know the preset bias that tends to exist among university professors about the community college system.

    To be fair, I used to think just like softshellcrab. I have served as F/T and adjunct faculty at several private colleges and thought not particularly well of CC students. When I was in high school, we had our derisive nicknames for the local “junior” college and I used those insults well into adulthood. It was not until I met more CC students and realized that while some were not up to the academic rigors of university education, this clearly was not a universal statement. Like many of my fellow academicians, I unfairly generalized the system and the students of varying abilities that it produces.

    Oh, and by the way, as I am aware that many students in a university classroom are “not ready for prime time,” please do not make the assumption that all of them came from the community college system. I can assure you from experience as a high school teacher that not nearly all the students K-12 is sending to your fine institutions of higher learning are prepared to excel, much less at the level you expect. While I may disagree with some of the popular solutions being bandied about, the problem clearly begins as the K-12 level and must be addressed there before we bang on community colleges because we finally realized they have been at the party all along.

  • robjenkins

    Thanks, Julie.

  • robjenkins

    I’ve no doubt that the quality of two-year colleges may vary. However, students who transfer from my institution to the four research universities in our state have an average GPA of 3.03 in their first year, and I have the data to back that up. (Oooh. As an English professor, I just got a little jolt from saying “I have the data to back that up.”) I’m sure many other two-year colleges across the country could make (and substantiate) similar claims.

    And if I may offer a bit of anecdotal evidence: my daughter took her first year of college courses at my institution while she was still a high school student, through our Dual Enrollment program. She then transferred to a moderately-selective private institution, from which she graduated with honors three years later–two months before her 21st birthday. She is now gainfully employed in her field. I consider that a community college success story, one of many that I’m aware of.

    Best,
    Rob

  • missoularedhead

    I understand where you’re coming from, and it was largely to rectify that situation that I got into teaching at the CC. I don’t think it has to do with the quality of students — I can’t tell you how many kids showed up at the R-1 where I was a graduate student, and who came straight from a prestigious private school, who found themselves ‘outthunk’ by my CC students, largely because my CC students knew something about time management. It’s a bit overbroad to say ‘all’ this or ‘all’ that. And really, was the use of ‘idiot’ necessary?

  • mmcknight

    Amazing, softshellcrab, that you’re willing to concede that you only know about the CCs near you, and yet you’re also willing to extrapolate from that incredibly limited knowledge to say we should either shut down all CCs or “demand real standards.” I’d like to demand some real standards from you regarding basing your arguments on more than just anecdotal evidence.

  • rweisberger

    I strongly agree with the argument for the importance of the liberal arts in a community college education. The emphasis on” workforce development” while understandable in regard to students need for employment, often overshadows the importance and need for students to gain a broad education. Students at a community college should be able to be exposed to the traditional college courses encompassed by the liberal arts. Otherwise we are supporting a class system that provides the upper classes with a more traditional college education while others become as Jenkins says “human widgets”. This is one reason also (among others) while there needs to be resistance to the expansion of for-profit institutions which clearly emphasize the “workplace” over what we have traditionally understood as higher education.

  • ccprofmo

    YES, YES, YES. You have captured exactly the concerns I have. I teach (Philosophy) at a large community college in the midwest and most recently the emphasis on work-force development at the exclusion of everything else is frightening. I have heard (often) that the long term goal of the wfd folks is to figure out how their students can earn college credit for their work. I see a future where we are “selling” college credit (like some non-profit colleges.)

    By the way, I’ve told the folks I know in wfd that there is a way now for their students to earn college credits: enroll in credit classes. We offer them in flexible formats (16 week, 12 week, 8 week, 6 week classes) at various times (day,evening, weekend). GEESH.

    Anyway, with regard to all of your points, thanks for saying what I’ve been thinking. . .I’m sharing this with everyone I know!

  • robjenkins

    Thanks, ccprofmo. I appreciate your support. If enough of us say this loudly and often enough, perhaps we can reverse the trend away from liberal arts education toward job training. Perhaps one point we need to be making is that a quality liberal arts education IS good job training.

    Best,
    Rob

  • mindnbodybuilding

    I don’t think you’re sorry at all. Indeed as soon as I saw “softshellcrab” I immediately thought to myself “here goes another rant” as it seems you never pass on a chance to bash communty colleges. I suspect you troll the page waiting for such chances.Very well then…I’ll play.

    You boast that your school does not accept the CCs higher level classes due to their lack of rigor. If this is true (and you have given no evidence-based research to suggest that it is) what have you done to correct this? Do you, or your colleagues, or anyone from your divsion meet regularly with your counterparts at the CCs to discuss these matters? Or do you all just look down your noses and wait to vilify ALL CCs based on your limited perspective?

    “Their problem probably stems from the fact that there are many students there who are not that good”. Really? Is that what you’re going with? As if the same couldn’t be said of students attending 4-year schools right out of high school? Where have you been? According to Dr. Kati Haycock, director of The Education Trust, a leading educational reform organization in Washington, D.C., the fastest growing high school curriculum has been in AP courses and yet over the same time period the fastest growing part of the college curriuculum has been in remedial or high school level courses. Perhaps YOUR school is an overblown high school and you don’t even realize it!

  • ksmithtcc

    I think that you would change your mind if you could meet our awesome students at Tacoma Community College. I recently attended a state-wide awards ceremony that honored two of our hardworking students, who earned 3.71 & 3.68 GPA’s while balancing school, work, family and other obligations. And our students do earn their grades; we set high standards for all curriculum so that an individual graduates proficient in critical thinking and problem solving, communication, information and information technology, living and working cooperatively/respecting differences, responsibility and ethics, as well as knowledge in each distribution area (written communication, humanities, quantitative skills, natural sciences and social sciences). I know because I was once a student here (began college when I was in my 30′s); I earned an Associate’s and later went on to earn a Bachelor’s and am on track to earn a Master’s in June. I received a well-rounded education at my CC (at 1/3 the cost of the universities that I went on to attend), as well as skills training that I use every day in my job.

  • surpassingreach

    YES! I work for one of the top ten community colleges in California and I feel I always have to defend my institution to people that base our “effectiveness” on transfer and degrees alone. CC’s are the most diverse campuses even in terms of objectives and goals. Some students are here to transfer, others to receive a degree or certificate, some to enrich their knowledge or skills for their jobs, while many are just taking classes for their own personal enrichment. We do so much!
    As far as quality, not all CC’s are a like with some being better than others. However the majority of my students that have transfered and come back to visit almost always say that they find the university curriculum quiet easy and they have the honors and awards as proof. I also worked for the UC system prior to the CC’s and I almost ALWAYS found transfer students doing academically better than non-transfers AND they had less conduct issues.

  • raza_khan

    I find that our education system is broken and ineffective and we at community college feel the brunt of this. The fundamental underlying issue I believe is the disconnect and perhaphs intentional lack of communication across to the “other side”

    We all know well that there are excellent students and excellent teachers in the K-12 system across the country. However, we all realize that No Child Left Behind has prompted the teachers to preach to the test and for the K-12 system to ensure no one student is “left behind” even though it may be in the child’s best interest.

    So, why is that an issue for us at the community colleges? … Other than the obvious “duh!” reply, we now are forced to cater to the community needs and one of them is to provide developmental courses to students who have passed high school, earned their diploma but are really not academically ready for college. I can probably say with a high certainity (or higher confidence interval) that 99% of community college faculty members have yet to sit down with high school teachers in bi-annually or even annually meetings to discuss what is required of students as pre-requisites.

    The same is true when it comes to community colleges and the 4-year institutions. The issue I see is is not academic preparation but as to how we prepare our students. At community colleges, we offer smaller class sizes, teaching is the major responsibility for the faculty and we offer a lot of support to our students. However, the ball game changes at 4-year where you may have 400-student classes, where faculty members are teaching only one class and are bogged down in research as part of tenure process or better yet may be teaching the class from overseas via webcam or may even have TA’s teach the class too!! Also, there is slightly to moderately less intensity of focus on student support at 4-year institutions.

    We first may have to look at what is not working on our campus. Then, we must be willing to talk to our partners – those where our students come from and those where they go to at all academic levels. Short of that, we are doing a great injustice to our younger generation.

    My above observations are based on teaching at a doctoral, comprehensive, 4-year and 2-year colleges in the last 13 years at DC, CO, IL, NE, OR, CA and now at MD.

    best,

    Raza
    _____________________________
    Raza Khan, Ph.D.
    dr.raza.khan@gmail.com

  • elfnes2

    I wonder what you really think . . .?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TLPQFK5DH36KTZNACWXWV23CGY Aaron

    I can’t speak for all CCs and not even for all classes at my own institution, but my classes are very similar to the undergraduate courses at the state university where I received my degrees.  If students pass my class they are capable of passing similar classes at any public university in my state.

  • http://unicq.net/ Huijia Phua

    Completely agree. That’s why a couple of us international students studying in the US set up a community site to reach out and help our fellow prospective students learn about studying and life here in general. In time, we hope to facilitate communications between college officials and students on our platform. Appreciate everyone’s kind support for our student-driven initiative here: unicq.net

  • dwheelermd

    I think “criminal species” can easily be blamed on the writer, and will not reflect badly on the scientist. Thanks for the alert on the ESA meeting! –David Wheeler

  • msuttles

    First year criminology students, or second year depending on the classes and professors, know that criminal profiling points to those who get arrested, not to who the criminals are.

    This would have been a great article all by itself without attempting to reinvigorate near-ancient positivist thought that argues deviance and crime are intrinsic. Comparing humans to the natural world, which was a main element to rationalize positivist thought in the early 1800s, can, and did, only lead to criminal labeling.

    This article, sadly, will give the established order all the ammunition they need to revitalize outdated, and logically deficient, criminology theories.

    The author has a great article here on natural science; I wish he would have left it that way rather than comparing two opposite worlds. I can practically guarantee that I will hear of this from one of my students once the corporate media gets wind of it. FYI, I actually had to correct one of my students once who tried to pass off the Stockholm syndrome as a scholarly theory of criminal behavior. But then that’s why we’re here, to teach.

    Overall informative article dwheeler, but social science could do without the criminology camparison to the natural world. I guess in hind sight I should be grateful though, now we’ll have more discussion.

    My best regards,
    Morris

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