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Not Everybody Loves David

February 23, 2012, 12:19 pm

After two campus visits this past week (and four full days of cross-country travel) I am completely exhausted, but also encouraged and energized by the whole experience. It’s true that when a search committee brings you to town they do so because something has seriously attracted them to you as a candidate. My hosts at both schools made me feel like a star: We ate at excellent local restaurants, my hotel rooms had king-size beds, and everywhere I went someone wanted to talk about my research. On the whole, it was clear that the search committees were doing their best to limit the stresses of a demanding schedule.

That said, I was surprised (though, of course, I shouldn’t have been) to realize that not everyone liked me or even wanted to. At one point I gave a job talk to a group of faculty representatives from other departments. One professor planted herself in the center of the second row and scowled at me throughout my presentation. It probably would have been distracting, but I had noticed the anger on her face when she first walked into the room and I convinced myself that it had nothing to do with me. As it turns out, I was wrong. When the time came for questions, she accused me of sexism and asked how in the world I expected to effectively teach women.

Apparently, somewhere in the hundred-odd pages of application materials I submitted, I had used the word “man” as a synonym for “humankind.” I felt falsely accused and misrepresented by the quotation she lifted out of context, but more than anything else I was caught off guard by her animosity. I think I was able to explain that the fault lay in my phrasing and that I certainly didn’t intend to exclude women, but I was flustered. In hindsight, I should have cited examples of particularly productive relationships I have had with female students and pointed this professor to their evaluations in my teaching portfolio, but I hadn’t gone into the interview thinking I would need to prove my respect for women.

In the dozens of interviews I have had these last few months on the job market, this was my first openly hostile question. I am glad it happened because it allowed me to recognize what a mistake it can be to think of ourselves as interviewing “at a university” or “with a search committee,” in other words before an impersonal unit. We’re dealing with individuals, each with their own baggage and agenda, and that’s quite a bit messier. Given how much talking and writing goes into job seekers’ self-presentation, even the most politically nimble are likely to step on someone’s toes. While our host introduces us with accolades, someone else is grumbling.

My question then, is how do we gracefully respond to our detractors when we meet them? In this case, the interviewer in question left still angry. I obviously failed to set her at ease. After the event was over, several of her colleagues apologized for her treatment of me, but I never saw her again and never had another chance to set things right between us. Have other job seekers had similar experiences? What can you do to address the concerns of that professor who you suspect didn’t want you to visit in the first place? If they don’t explicitly voice their hesitations, how do you spot and answer them? Or is that exactly what our advisers are preparing us to do when they say, “just be yourself”?

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  • minnesotan

    Perhaps you should amend that advice to “run for a public office you have a chance in hell of winning.”

    Not to down the third party candidates — they have my undying support. It’s just that losing nobly in an election and losing nobly at the tenure-track lottery aren’t functionally any different. Either way, you followed your heart, had it trampled on, and now have to deal with the government’s threats to send you to debtor’s prison if you don’t pay them back for the privilege of training for ten years to flounder in a market with no jobs.

  • realtyannie

    Well, copesan, we are talking here about English degrees. Probably a PhD in Physics or another hard science would open up some pretty cool doors.  As noted by Mr. Jacobs, the only reason people get English PhDs is to become English professors. Whatever alternative careers might interest them are probably accessible with a humble BA.

    By the way, PhD programs should not be stopped. We do need new English professors. Just not so many.

  • realtyannie

    You could get their email address and forward them every single article like this in the Chronicle. And every article about declining tenure. And every article about universities declaring financial exigency. And every article about the loss of state funding.  Ad infinitum. There is enough bad news in the Chronicle to sink into a few of those brilliant young minds!

  • weathered

    I had that experience three times, especially with someone sitting at the front row or just raiding in the middle of a talk. I still haven’t figured out what to do with them. They were frowning to such a degree that they looked like someone smacked their faces with shoes. They usually make one loud accusation against you (sometimes to the point of distorting your own words) and do everything to drag you down to their battleground. What are you supposed to do with them?

  • daddyprof

    You handled this appropriately, I think. It is not likely that any amount of discussion could have changed her mind, since it was probably already made up. Any discussion of your previous successes could have been construed by her as defensive posturing. You maybe would have been badgered further, to the point where she could “give you enough rope,” so to speak. It’s easy to make a nervous applicant trip up and shoot himself in the foot. And you didn’t! Good job.

    Doesn’t sound particularly personal to me, since she left without further badgering. She wanted to make a point and be heard; she did and she was. She may have wanted a female for the position, she may be opposed to the position being filled (her area lost a line because of it?), she may have a bad case of hay fever, who knows? Not us. Other people were gracious. That’s a good sign, go with that.

  • bigtwin

    Oh man (whoops I just did it too) – that kind of behaviour makes me so glad to have left academe.

    How dare someone use a vernacular expression! How outrageous! I will never speak to you again!

  • http://www.amplifi.com/executive.htm DrKull

    I had a similar experience. Ad hominim attacks are the worst form of debate and lead to unkind assumptions of intent and competence. My recommendation is to work with people who like to help others be successful. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=504382859 Peter Storandt

    Sounds like central casting did its job well. If you know her identity, you could try a diplomatic follow-up email, and then leave it at that if she doesn’t respond. Seems as though her colleagues are familiar with her repertoire, having apologized to you.

  • 22108469

    Never personally had this particular experience in the olden days, but I have certainly witnessed the Chief Curmudgeons of Academia settle in for a good long session of scowling, eyerolling, harrumphing, and straining at imaginary gnats.

  • Brian Abel Ragen

    After considering the question for the few seconds you have, give an answer that impartially addresses the subject: here either “Yes, that’s a better term” or “I really don’t think the term I used is likely to be misunderstood.” Don’t be defensive and don’t be bullied. Sadly, there are people who will jump on you for saying “American Indian” rather than “Native American” even though most Indians prefer the former term or saying “Black” even when you are talking about people of African descent who are not from the USA and can’t logically be called “African-American.” It’s the academic equivilent of asking, “Why doesn’t so-and-so wear an American flag pin in his lapel?” Simply decline to play this silly game of “Gotcha!” If you lose a vote on your hiring, it may be just as well, unless you want to spend six years being manipulated in the same way.

  • cwinton

    There is no “right” way to handle the scenario you picture.  People tend to have hot buttons, but the woman you describe evidently has deeper issues since she came to the interview session with malice aforethought.  No response on your part would have satisfied her.  Responding with something like “I’m sorry that you are choosing to interpret my use of language in such a manner – I will take it as an object lesson in how I express myself in the future” would have been more than sufficient.  The key thing is to not let such treatment get under your skin, not an easy thing for someone having scant experience with hostile questions.  That kind of audience behavior in a job interview is uncalled for.  I hope someone took the time to report her churlish behavior to her chair.

  • 11182967

    Respond politely–and briefly.  Every campus has axe-grinders, and they are well known among their peers.  In most cases others will appreciate that you did not permit the axe-grinder to detour the discussion.  If, as may happen, the axe-grinder has influence or is but the most verbal representative of others grinding the same axe, you could well get black-balled.  But wouldn’t that be better than coming to work in a venue where that could happen for those reasons?  In an interview, always be who you will be when you get there and you won’t disappoint once you’re there.

  • profmomof1

    I think you handled it as well as possible. Back in the day when I was on the market, I learned to quickly identify those faculty members who were supporting another candidate for the job; if they even bother to show up at your job talk, it’s to try to make you look bad. Nothing you can say or do will change their mind about you.

  • tylerjohn

    The person who attacked you has no doubt offended many colleagues at the campus you visited through similar behavior on other occasions.  It’s unfortunate that some academics are as angry as she was, but I think you were right to try to placate her.  Even so, her attack may have gained you several supporters on this campus.

  • green_hornist

    Those people are definitely out there, and they are not doing academia or the world the favor they imagine.  I’m surprised you hadn’t encountered them before.

  • raymond_j_ritchie

    Sounds like it did not matter what you said or did. You were guilty of having a Y chromosome.  She probably just used a word processor to find “forbidden” words in your material.  You encounter types like that in life.
    At an interview public seminar at the Sydney Uni main campus for a job at a branch campus of Sydney University I was asked “How do you teach biology?” by someone I had never seen before.  He was not a member of the School of Biological Sciences.  I was so astonished I did not know what to say. I stumbled badly.  At the time I had 12 years post-doctoral research experience (in 4 countries), had taught biology and biochemistry at levels 1, 2 & 3 over 4 years at another university, had supervised several honours, masters and PhD students and had published in science education journals.  I had talked about the courses I had taught in the seminar. I had taught courses at Sydney University and was well known to be a good teacher but only as a PhD student and adjunct.
    I did not get the job and was never told why.  I never found out who the questioner was and never saw him again. They appointed someone with no publication record who was a highschool teacher but had connections at the branch campus. I do not think she had a PhD.  She was hopeless and the program collapsed. May all their fowls die!

  • johnbarnes

    About “How do you teach biology?” … don’t know if it applies elsewhere but here in the US there was a fad for a while for the “Very basic question by the layman” (I always thought of it as the “Question suggested by Homer Simpson.”)  They’d have someone from administrative staff who didn’t know anything about your specialty ask a kind of general public question to see if you could interact with the public, parents, non-majors, etc.  I was asked — well, confronted with, “I  heard that Shakespeare was written by some other guy” at one job interview.

    I said I was familiar with the controversy and firmly on the side that we have the right guy, but it would require an hour or two of going over the evidence to answer the question, and that, yes, if desired, I could teach on the point.

    I guess if I’d been asked “How do you teach theatre?” I’d've paraphrased some of my teaching philosophy until it occurred to me to finish up with, “…. and therefore, better than most people.”

  • mindnbodybuilding

    “In an interview, always be who you will be when you get there and you won’t disappoint once you’re there.”

    Sage advice!

  • http://higheredcareercoach.com/ Sean Cook

    Wow. Sounds like you did the best you could under the circumstances. The other comments are spot on. It wasn’t about you and your qualifications. It was about her agenda. Saying “No offense was intended, and I appreciate your feedback. Good point.” probably would have taken the wind our of her sails. Whether it did or not, your professionalism and tact would have been noted by those who thought she was out of line, or who were worried about whether you could handle the frays you’ll be drawn into by this woman if you join the faculty there. A tactful response can only help your case. Best of luck!

  • wilkieja

    OK she was rude and inappropriate but I do wonder why did you use the word MAN for humanity in anything you wrote in the year 2012–given that the first efforts to create more gender free language use where appropriate began over 30 years ago?

  • geoffwalter

    I’m curious: how did you find out what the origin of the problem was?  Did this person tell you that you misused one word in 100 pages?  Only one word?  That’s statistically improbable – good job!  That said, presuming that she told you where the problem was, you could respond in this fashion:
    1) “Gee, that wording seems like an oversight on my part.  But addressing the heart of the matter you bring up, I don’t believe any of the many young women I’ve mentored would respond as you have. But since my wording appears to be an issue for you, I will ask several of them to get their opinions of my teaching style, ability, and effectiveness.”  (Then pause, make a note of this and follow through.)
    2) “Would you like me to get back to you with their responses, or can I put them in contact with you and the department chair directly?” (This will close the loop.)
    3) “Are there other instances where the material I’ve submitted cast doubt in your mind on my ability or my effectiveness?”
    4) “If you have any other issues you want to discuss, please stay after so we can talk privately, or feel free to contact me at  . . . .”
    5) “Lastly, I appreciate your bringing this to my attention!  It is not my intent to distract from the message I deliver by using improper terminology – and certainly not to irritate or anger the reader!”

    In the end, she did you a favor, because issues arise in meetings that are based on personal history and prejudices over which you have no control.  But you do control your response and your developing relationship with the audience. Clearly, if the position requires previously demonstrated perfection in every facet, that position would be open forever.  But if the position merely requires you to learn from each mistake, correct it and move on – then you have a chance of being successful.

  • http://who-will-kiss-the-pig.blogspot.com Richard Grayson

     Probably because people make mistakes occasionally.  I’m 60 years old and whenever the singular personal pronoun is needed in class — “a lawyer should zealously defend her clients,” “a scientist needs to check her data” — I try my best to use the feminine pronoun, just as my law professors did in the 1990s.  But I am a product of my times — as a college junior in 1972, I needed to be corrected by a professor when I called Mary McCarthy’s “The Group” a novel about “Vassar girls” rather than “women.”  Although we do our best, when we are tired or anxious or involved in some complex project, we make mistakes in speaking and writing. 

    I can’t speak for the author, but I suspect this was a simple oversight, one that shouldn’t be the focus if it can be explained as such.

    Give him a freaking break, willya?

  • http://who-will-kiss-the-pig.blogspot.com Richard Grayson

    Is “ad hominem” sexist?  (This is a genuine question, not a rhetorical one.)

  • elen3124

    The Latin word “homo” is translated both as “man” or “person” — however the Latin word for male person is “vir” suggesting that the purest sense of “ad hominem” is “to the human” and not “to the male person”.

  • realeducator09

     Thirty years from now when today’s youngest professors are chided for using text talk they’ll understand.

  • waratah104

    I would say don’t even bother to try. Let her carry her own baggage. Focus on things you can control — your teaching, your research, your relationships with students.

  • dolllar

    I remember when Gloria Steinem was speaking to a church group and made a similar inadvertent misstep.   When someone in the question period called her on it, she paused for a second and said, “You know, you’re right.  I have to be more careful about that.  I’m sorry I said that.”  This completely disarmed the person making the complaint, and won the crowd to her side immediately.

  • haste

    If you are confident enough in who you are and what you wrote you wouldn’t feel the need to explain any more than what you did to this woman.  She was raising the question to make a point, not to be persuaded. 

  • malareau

    Your attitude on this is admirable and I encourage you that if your demeanor reflects what is in your writing (how could it not!), then, speaking as a female colleague, you are in good stead.
    In my 20 years of experience in colleges as a professor, I’ve been amazed that it has been the men in my areas of support who were always rooting for me. The women? …well, not so much. Consider that some individuals will find a reason to respond similarly—no matter who is there or how careful they have been. I would be proud to call you a colleague and wish you all the best. 

  • MChag12

    With something that absurd I would just lie.  I would say, “yes, an unfortunate oversight that I did notice, but at 2 in the morning I did not have the time to go back and correct it.”  And then maybe add something like, “if you look at my record, I think you will see that I do and have taught women and men very well.”  And leave it as that.  She was out to get you.  You don’t know why…maybe she had her own candidate. maybe the job was to replace her.  Who knows.  With that kind of a situation you just go with what sounds the best.  

  • pamposz

    I can’t help but posting a few comments here given the general tone of the dialogue.  I don’t blame the author for being thrown by the tone of the comments and demeanor of the woman who said them.  That is a natural response.  Nor do I blame him for using “man” – I think it’s a fairly natural mistake and I’m sure he usually avoids it.  What I do object to is the fact that almost everyone here has essentially dismissed the woman’s right to express her feelings.  It is true that the manner in which she did it was not effective.  But we don’t have any other context here for why she said what she did.  Maybe she’s had to deal with a lot of sexism in her research.  We don’t know. We just have a description of a single interaction.  Do any of us want to be judged on a single moment in our lives, perhaps when we’re having a bad day? I do like the responses of the people who gave suggestions on how to deal with someone responding this way, that is helpful information for all of us.   

    I’ll step off my soapbox now.

  • mmullins

    It’s good that you were called on your use of sexist language.  We no longer live in the 1950s.  Language should be inclusive, especially since roughly 55% of our undergraduates are now female.  And given that you continue to be tone deaf and defensive about your use of “man,” it is clear that you would not have been a good fit for this university. 

    The overall tone of the responses in this column suggests the ongoing  misognyny and resentment of women in higher education. 

    Imagine if a male colleague called you out on your misuse of theory, or lack of data.  The legitimation of male / patriarchal discourse goes on, and the delegitimation of women who do not apologize for inclusiveness still goes on.  This colleague did you a favor.  Perhaps a small conservative university in the south would be a better fit for you — there, you could revel in your use of “man” and even be applauded for it.

  • margray

    A lot of the comments here would be difficult to put together when caught off guard.  I think that having a couple of pat responses for this type of situation is better.  I have found that telling someone that you’re sure that they are right, and this must have been an unfortunate oversight sometimes works.  It is difficult for people to continue fighting with you when you have told them that they are correct.

  • whsv1976

    I have the highest respect for women and am opposed to discrimination based on race, sexual orientation, religion, gender, national origin, or class; yet there is absolutely nothing wrong with using “man” to refer to the human race.

  • whsv1976

    Please see my comment above.

  • http://twitter.com/ashrrs Ashrrs

    I’ve definitely experienced what you saw in interviews, but I never knew what the issue was. Sometimes the hostile individual in a group interview gives some hints as to what their issue is, but usually you don’t know why they seem to be anti-you. For all you know, their face is always in a scowl…

  • theart

    There’s one in almost every department.  You can be reasonably sure that as soon as she stood up, half of the room was thinking, “here she goes again”, and the other half wasn’t listening. 

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