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‘Money Isn’t Everything’

July 6, 2007, 3:50 pm

Thanks to Tyler Cowen over at Marginal Revolution for pointing out an article in The Economist about a study that provides valuable insight into men’s sometimes risky negotiating tactics. The study was conducted by economist Terence Burnham of Harvard University, who asked male students to play the ultimatum game, in order to learn why men often reject one of the basic principles of economics — that any amount of money, however small, is worth having. Apparently, testosterone is to blame:

Dr. Burnham’s research budget ran to a bunch of $40 games. When there are many rounds in the ultimatum game, players learn to split the money more or less equally. But Dr. Burnham was interested in a game of only one round. In this game, which the players knew in advance was final and could thus not affect future outcomes, proposers could choose only between offering the other player $25 (i.e., more than half the total) or $5. Responders could accept or reject the offer as usual. Those results recorded, Dr. Burnham took saliva samples from all the students and compared the testosterone levels assessed from those samples with decisions made in the one-round game.

As he describes in the Proceedings of the Royal Society, the responders who rejected a low final offer had an average testosterone level more than 50% higher than the average of those who accepted. Five of the seven men with the highest testosterone levels in the study rejected a $5 ultimate offer but only one of the 19 others made the same decision.

Burnham’s conclusion: Men would rather forgo a financial windfall than see another man get ahead. And men think women are spiteful?

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llgamble - September 23, 2011 at 7:07 am

This appears to be similar to the trend in P-12 education to consider a move towards standards based curriculum with anywhere, any time learning. It will be interesting to see who survives and what content the “badges” tackle first. My guess is that teaching will be on one of the early lists!

aindrias_hiort - September 23, 2011 at 7:22 am

Differently.

cwinton - September 23, 2011 at 7:23 am

This is old stuff.  Companies like MicroSoft have credentialing for those who work with their products, much as one might have for working on ACs.  When first introduced these were valuable to those who acquired them, but once people figured out how to game the system for obtaining the various credentials being provided, the distinction quickly lost credibility.

aindrias_hiort - September 23, 2011 at 7:40 am

Let’s face it. Academia is living in the Dark Ages. It is becoming increasingly vulnerable to being brutally obsolete and passing by the way-side. As an example, look at the way that we apply for jobs at universities. They actually make us supply written recommendations! Some universities are so archaic that they make recommendations be mailed by the referees themselves. Maybe I should also have them delivered by the Pony Express!! That hasn’t been done in industry (read Steve Jobs) in 30 years. Everyone is writing their own recommendations and having their profs. just sign them anyway. Even if some academic HR departments accept online applications, look at the way you have to re-enter your work experience, C.V., etc., each time you apply to a different university. This antique way of doing business is not lost on the students. They expect an institution where they are learning cutting-edge technologies to behave that likewise, If your business practices are mired in the 1950s, students see that and will go elsewhere. 

richardtaborgreene - September 23, 2011 at 7:46 am

competition is JUST what higher ed needs though for profit competition is probably entirely illusory.  

dank48 - September 23, 2011 at 8:07 am

Apple succeeded partly because . . .

115thDream - September 23, 2011 at 8:56 am

Ivan Illich once wrote something like “it ought to be illegal to discriminate in employment on the basis of how long someone has been in a school.”   I’m an old-fashioned (dark ages?) professor in the liberal arts and I think Illich was right.  Anything that gets credential and competence more closely aligned (or replaces credential with competence) is fine with me and I think it’d be good for people and for colleges if we didn’t have to worry about whether colleges “have a corner on the credential business.”  What colleges and universities do is valuable and important–and some of it can’t be done very easily in other forms–but “credentionaling” probably isn’t on that list.

squacky - September 23, 2011 at 9:04 am

Interesting article. I hadn’t heard about the “badges” concept before. Just a few reactions: 

1. This may well set off a “credentialing” vs. “educating” debate, and we can credit Mr. Selingo’s word choice for egging this on. I, for one, appreciate his implied perspective, namely, that colleges and universities depend on credentialing motives of the individuals who move through as students, whether the colleges and universities (or their students, for that matter) choose to admit it or not. 
2. If alternative forms of credentialing are to really take hold, higher education insiders (e.g., “those at traditional colleges”) are not the only people who will have to think different(ly). Mr. Selingo notes that employers would have to take a leap of faith. So, too, would prospective students need to maintain a different take on what it means to be appropriately credentialed. Colleges and universities hardly cater to every whim of students, but they surely respond to enduring market pressures, as the well-documented rise of vocational/professional academic programs demonstrates. Organizations that create or otherwise certify these badges cannot assume that there is a market, ready and waiting. 

3. Based on what Mr. Selingo observes above, what might make a badge experiment different from StraighterLine is that it may not necessarily depend on existing colleges/universities for legitimacy. StraighterLine’s product is not a stand-alone course but a stand-alone *transferable* course, which is why it must highlight its parter institutions (i.e., those signed on to receive StraighterLine courses) so prominently. Given this, I’m not sure Mr. Selingo’s assumption that the badge concept will bring out traditional college naysayers holds water. If badges don’t need to be owned by colleges and universities in any way, then the response from the traditional higher education sector may not amount to more than a collective sigh.

3224243 - September 23, 2011 at 9:09 am

“Differently” is correct only if modifying “think.”  Steve Jobs intended his “different” as a adjective, not an adverb.

lanegs1 - September 23, 2011 at 9:48 am

I think this is a very healthy development.  I feel strongly that learning can be acquired in many ways beyond taking classes and can be documented/authenticated in ways other than degrees and institutional certificates.  I believe that this kind of thinking could invigorate not only higher ed, but also high school, where fresh, creative options are desperately needed.

ederieux - September 23, 2011 at 10:02 am

As an employer, I say this is way past due.  One of my two best employees has an undergraduate degree.  The other completed two community college courses and has no formal credential past a high school diploma.  My three least competent hires in the last five years: one had a college degree, one had no college degree, and one had an elaborately faked college degree that we did not catch until a year later.  In my experience, a college degree is not a reliable credential for employment and I am searching for something that is.  Let’s try out the badge system.  Anything is better than what we now have.

3rdtyrant - September 23, 2011 at 10:55 am

You’re right.  Everything you said is exactly right everywhere, and you have no errors in assumptions nor errors in logical reasoning.  I’m glad you’re are the voice for advancement.  Thus, the archaism of the University will be safe for years to come.

3rdtyrant - September 23, 2011 at 11:02 am

Now, you’re expecting people to infer something here, and that’s something that’s practiced and honed in the dark ages place everyone on this thread seems so happy to disparage.  I love the post, but fear it won’t hit its mark.

3rdtyrant - September 23, 2011 at 11:14 am

This is just the kind of crap that business model sycophants want to fob off on the world as something superior to higher education.  Education cannot be effectively run like a business because the outcomes, or deliverables, are often intangible and incredibly difficult to assess.  Just because something has been around for a long time does not make it necessarily out of date.  Of course, this apparently too-complex-to-be-understood idea is learned in college, so many of the people posting here either missed it, are choosing to ignore it (horror beyond belief), or didn’t go to college and are suffering diploma envy.

Only an idiot would assume that higher education is completely free from problems, but it would take a bigger idiot to impose a flawed model on it or to want to toss it out.  The system has worked effectively for centuries, and it is no more untenable in a modern context than the lever (another very, very old idea).  What’s frightening is the lust for novelty is even paid attention to, since some of the people on this thread would discard everything effective in higher education, simply because their experience didn’t fit something traditional.  Sadly, everyone, there is a whole world existing outside your extremely limited vision, and perhaps part of that is the deliberate and purposefully slow movement designed to preserve the best and excise the worst of a system that continues to evolve–though obviously not at the pace that some of you geniuses would like. 

The model is effective: learning theories, practicing them, and then applying them in preparation for whatever one tries to do.  It’s so simple and effective that to want to toss it out because higher education requires people to actually write things is the real horror.  This kind of vomitous thinking is what lies at the heart of most social ills.

Finally, what idiot thinks colleges aren’t thinking different from the onset?  Only the most embarrassing university–either one that never thinks different, or one that can only think different–would allow graduates to leave under the impression that this assertion is even credible.  No university worth its salt would ignore reasonable innovation, and no credible university would ever embrace change just for the sake of change.  There’s a reason for this: not all change is good, and much of it must be tried in order to establish its value.

Please, for the love of all that’s holy or reasonable, don’t let your puerile impatience try to be the standard for the world’s higher education.

11142568 - September 23, 2011 at 11:27 am

The key words here are “looking solely for a career credential”.  To the extent that a large part of the higher education industry is about providing career credentials,  it is reasonable to suppose that going forward,  many kinds of players can and will provide alternative ways for people to get a credential.  On the cautionary side, however,  the moral and even criminal  mess of for-profit schools should alert us that if you have a desirable “product”  and a possibility of profits, many unscrupulous people will get into the act, the ability of profitable enterprises to buy off legislatures will make it difficult to regulate such a development.    Still, this kind of thing will probably happen, and one effect will be the downsizing of the higher education industry.   Nonetheless, there are still many reasons why the industry will still have many worthwhile social purposes such as providing a place for the children of the middle class to develop valuable social, personal, and complex intellectual virtues,  providing education in the arts and sciences that can only be learned over a relatively large period of time and sequentially,  providing the moral, social, cultural, personal, and intellectual formation of the governing classes that are needed to run the higher echelons of the bureaucracies of government, industry, and business,  educating the professions such as professors, lawyers, physicians,  and the like, and other purposes that are not coming to mind.   It is important also to note that this idea of “getting a credential”  needs some unpacking.   If one thinks of, for example, the kind of credential that Microsoft offers,  the image is of the acquiring of some technical skills.   These can quickly become outmoded.   I think back when I went to public high school (in the ’50′s) when the lower classes (and alas the selection was made by the school hierarchy largely in terms of what side of the tracks you came from) were relegated to “general” education which meant lots of classes in shop with such cutting edge skills as letterpress, sheet metal working, and the like.  Again one thinks of the unscrupulous entrepreneurs who will flock to helping the unwashed and untutored gain a credential as a beautician.   I am glad that I am old and about to retire.  My family had no money, but it never occurred to me that  I was going to college to get a job.   I went to college to read great literature, to learn other languages, to learn those things which, in Cicero’s words,   adulescentiam alunt, senectutem oblectant, secundas res ornant,
adversis perfugium ac solatium praebent, delectant domi, non impediunt
foris, pernoctant nobiscum, peregrinantur, rusticanturPeter Baker    Marymount Manhattan

kgodwin - September 23, 2011 at 11:35 am

I would argue that “the system”, as you put it, does not, and has not, “worked effectively for centuries” at what we’re trying to get it to work effectively for now.  A century ago, colleges and universities weren’t credentialing folks for your standard, run-of-the-mill jobs.  They were credentialing professionals – doctors, lawyers, professors, engineers.  

Today, however, we expect that salesmen and shopkeepers have degrees in business, that our bakers have degrees in baking, that our mechanics have degrees in automotive maintenance, etc.  500, 200 or even 100 years ago, colleges and universities weren’t trying to credential every – or even most – jobs in America.  I would challenge you to find a sizable number of careers for which there aren’t degree programs at some colleges.  You’d be amazed at what one can “major in” in higher ed.  My institution has degrees in construction (not to be confused with construction management), welding, baking, office assisting, medical office assisting, and painting/taping.  

Higher ed, as a system, is comprised of much more than just universities.  Its methods of teaching are quite effective for creating PhDs, doctors, lawyers and engineers.  I’d argue, though, that it may not be the only place – or even best place – to learn the vocational skills that would have been taught on the job 150 years ago.

_perplexed_ - September 23, 2011 at 12:26 pm

“…it would become a lot more difficult to persuade parents and students looking solely for a career credential to spend four years on campus.”

Any student looking “solely” for a credential with no interest in obtaining an education never belonged in a 4-year college or university in the first place.  I’d be delighted if such individuals could find what they are looking for elsewhere.

couchmar - September 23, 2011 at 12:28 pm

I agree with 3rdtyrant when he says “This is just the kind of crap that business model sycophants want to fob off on the world as something superior to higher education.”

What gave me immediate pause was the following claim: “Badges could recognize, for example, informal learning that happens outside the classroom; “soft skills,” such as critical thinking and communication…..”

Since when are “critical thinking and communication” soft skills? At the university where I teach, critical thinking is taught in the Elementary Logic course, which is anything but “soft” and in fact a course that many students have difficulty doing well in. Logic is not the kind of thing students would learn well by taking self-paced introductory courses online. The fact that the author thinks this is a good example of such an approach suggests Mr. Selingo doesn’t understand what’s involved in learning such subjects. Further, I hardly think it makes sense for students to learn “communication” by taking an online class. Am I seriously to believe that students can learn how to do public speaking (say) without having to get up in front of their peers and actually practice public speaking? They are to do this in the comfort of their own homes? Seriously? The suggestion that these kinds of skills could be done online strains the imagination. It is not an accident, in case it needs to be noted, that the traditional Trivium in the Liberal Arts included Grammar, Logic, and Rhetoric. These are fundamental areas of study and difficult to learn well, as any instructor of these courses knows.

joechill - September 23, 2011 at 12:41 pm

I’m sorry, but I don’t see the point here.  Who is awarding the “badges”?  Won’t the badge granting authorities become the new accredidation boards?  If we leave it to large corporate entities to grant them, won’t this stifling the kind of start up energy we want to create?  Finally, how do online comments to an article represent the opinion of the entire university structure?  There are a lot of things wrong with Smarthinking.  I’ve known people who have worked for the business, and it is clear that their interest is quick turn-over and not quality engagement with the students. 

What makes me suspicious of this opinion piece is that it is more interested in challenging the entire university structure than saying these are the skills businesses wish they employees had and this is how we can address that.  A real problem can be solved.  This opinion piece is radical and utopian.

josephofoley - September 23, 2011 at 1:04 pm

What is the purpose of a credential?  To indicate that its holder has royal blood, is a true blue AKA approved Cocker Spaniel or, perhaps, has gathered a valuable collection of intellectual traits, personal values and knowledge.  As ederieux has pointed out, colleges do not do an excellent job of certifying that their graduates are especially useful human beings.  One could argue that brand loyalty will solve this problem — simply choose a Princeton product over one from the University of Phoenix. 

It’s possible that part of the reason a graduate from a selective institution may be handier than an alum from a no-name school is the fact that, by definition, it’s  very difficult to get admitted to a selective college or university. Moreover, one of the keys to getting into a highly ranked school is to present great credentials such as high AP and SAT test scores and glowing recommendations.  Is the glory of Ivy League education build on a mean foundation of standardized tests and other non- collegiate credentials?

A legitimate and universally recognized nonprofit credentialing agency would solve many problems for self-directed learners and graduates of schools lacking wow power.  Here is a fine opportunity for a major foundation interested in reforming higher education.  Assemble a blue ribbon collection of eminent scholars who understand that it is possible to certify knowledge, skill, emotional intelligence, sensitivity and whatever else is deemed significant to society.  Charge them with designing a system for evaluating applicants who wish to demonstrate their potential value to others.  Figure out how to do it in a cost effective manner and then lobby the government to allow financial aid to be used for the process of demonstrating one’s competence as well as for attempting to develop it in the first place.

Imagine interviewing a personable young man or woman who was able to demonstrate conclusively that he or she could speak and read French and Spanish, use standard statistical analysis tools, solve basic math problems requiring a knowledge of calculus, write correct and concise English, work effectively in a team, play the alto sax at a semi-professional level, intelligently discuss the American Revolution, effectively evaluate the credibility of nontechnical written material as well as a host of other specific skills, knowledge or attributes needed for the position you were attempting to fill.  There is little doubt that such a state of affairs is attainable and that it would be transformational.  Even Harvard men and women might feel the need for a edging of certification gilt on their diplomas.

42zing - September 23, 2011 at 2:42 pm

Badges! We don’t need no stinkin’ badges.

dank48 - September 23, 2011 at 2:47 pm

It’s like marriage, 3rdtyrant: the triumph of hope over experience.

Also, I’m a slow learner.

theseus - September 23, 2011 at 3:00 pm

“new literacies, such as aggregating information from various sources and judging its quality.”

How on earth is that new?

Books Moore - September 23, 2011 at 3:28 pm

This is long past due. I’ve thought about getting an additional graduate degree in Edtech, just so I can have the credential for what I already know and have done, but when I look at the curriculum and credentials of the faculty, I’m very sure I could teach them a considerable amount.

darccity - September 23, 2011 at 3:31 pm

As a 35-year college faculty member who has fought against our theatre-of-the-absurd system of higher education, I strongly support any moves toward formal certification or (even better) simple demonstrations of learning outcome proficiencies. All my classes begin by telling the class that this is the only forum by which you and I can get together, but college doesn’t and cannot work! I remind them of the old joke, “If sex education were required in the schools, the human race would have died out long ago.” Then I tell them my classes are instead modeled after business training modules where completion of each is associated with having measurable skills. None of the usual junk about  ”being exposed to” anything or “learning to appreciate” stuff. And also no “I wonder what he’s gonna ask on the test” or “what answers does he want to hear.” Teaching to the tests is proper because the test question case studies are all directly linked with at least one of the learning outcomes. Capstone projects pull together all these learning outcomes into written and/or presentation formats.

3rdtyrant - September 23, 2011 at 4:24 pm

I’m not entirely sure what the point of disagreement is, and I concede you all the points you make.  How is that any kind of indictment of the current system?  Perhaps your ideals for higher education are not the same as mine.  I am coming from the perspective of the ideals of a Liberal Arts Education.  If you are a credentialist, that’s another thing altogether.  If you’re a bottom-liner, of course the system hasn’t worked, because you value deliverables over people, justice, liberty, and everything else.  Even a florist needs to be a good person and citizen, so it might not be a bad idea to have them educated.

3rdtyrant - September 23, 2011 at 4:25 pm

Are you yet living?

kathden - September 23, 2011 at 4:54 pm

Years ago I was sitting in seminars orchestrated by administrators that aimed to show us recalcitrant faculty members that we should change our teaching in accordance with the latest research on learning styles. I was supposed to tailor my teaching to the needs of each student in my class. Now I am told (basically by bean counters, who run seminars orchestrated by administrators who are convinced we recalcitrant faculty members must change our teaching in accordance with the latest research on outcomes assessment) that I need to modularize every component of my teaching so that student progress can be evaluated by people who know nothing about what I teach. darccity, you seem to be closer to this more recent trend than to the remoter one. Are you saying the way you teach your courses is the way everyone should? Could you teach a course on the theater of the absurd that way (I have my Ionesco badge, now I’m working on Beckett!)? Epistemology (what I love about it is that it allows me to demolish all the presuppositions about knowledge that the latest education fads take/fake as certain). Human ecology (which can be taught at elementary levels in a way something like you describe but that wouldn’t work at all for the intermediate and advanced levels–although for any course you can always define some abstract “outcomes” that can be enumerated, as the subject matter becomes more advanced those outcomes have less and less to do with the course substance)?

kgodwin - September 23, 2011 at 5:03 pm

I don’t think that we have different ideals for higher education.  I do value a lib arts education – both my BA and MA are from lib arts fields (women’s studies and sociology respectively).  I just don’t value lib arts education as job training.  The article, as I read it, is about credentialing for job training (“Of course, each of those groups would need to earn the trust of employers who would be asked to hire prospective employees with the badges and perhaps not a college degree. ”).  

As far as an indictment of the current system - I won’t argue with you about whether or not a lib arts education makes a better citizen.  It’s pretty clear to me that it does.  The things is we don’t pay people to be good citizens…and neither do employers.  In the end, college costs money.  I’m not against a lib arts education – I just don’t think it’s sound job training for 99% of Americans.  Will it help you live a fuller life? Absolutely.  But is higher ed the place to credential folks for jobs?  For some jobs – yeah!  My job, for example, and, I’d be guessing, yours.  

For others, florists not excluded, I don’t think it is.  (A total side note – my institution had a floral program not that long ago!)  Why not learn to bake in a bakery?  Why not learn to weld in a welding shop? What makes the classroom a superior place for that kind of learning?  Sure, we get to make them take a couple of lib arts classes to “broaden” their horizons, but realistically, these are the students we all hate teaching…because they have no investment in that part of their education…”Tell me what to regurgitate to you so I can go get a job!”  They’re the one who can’t tell you, ten years later, what they “learned” in their lib arts classes.

Higher ed, as job prep, just doesn’t make sense to me (for most jobs, anyway).

gavin_moodie - September 23, 2011 at 6:09 pm

I agree with cwinton: there are other longstanding and more conventional examples of non college occupational preparation and certification better tested than digital badges.  CPA Australia offers a CPA program which qualifies graduates for designation as a certified practising accountant and I think some bar councils may offer programs to prepare candidates for their exams.  

These programs haven’t overtaken college programs (yet?) because even instrumental students either feel they need the support of a college program or value education’s contribution to their personal development.

teachfordamasses - September 24, 2011 at 8:53 am

Shoot, we can’t even find a way to assess and certify basic learning, and now we are supposed to know how to assess emotional intelligence, sensitivity, critical thinking, team-building, etc?  The most significant problem is that the very “skills” employers want are almost never directly taught and never assessed by colleges, nor is there agreement that we even want to do this; it seems dangerously close to measuring or validating character or personality and those are too closely associated with culture and social class for us to do in higher education. 

I note that josephofolody cites specific performances in his extended example, NOT the more vague, personality-driven abilities employers say they want, which are intangible and difficult to assess. But if someone can do it, and if in the business sector they can take the risk of being accused of excluding those from different cultural/social backgrounds because these “skills” rest heavily on certain assumptions once you move beyond the general labels, bless their hearts and go for it. We certainly have failed utterly to do this in higher education and don’t seem to want to go there. Just try raising the issue of “emotional intelligence” (call it whatever name you wish) as a goal of college education on your campus. We are in the customer satisfaction biz (more students! more degrees! faster and easier!) and emotional development requires a certain degree of discomfort–not going to happen here.

cp3242 - September 24, 2011 at 10:39 pm

How does this practice differ from existing certificate programs at colleges and universities throughout the nation? 

One more thought: Let’s leave the term “badges” to the Boy and Girl Scouts. It seems ill-suited for an educational credential. 

lightningstrike - September 25, 2011 at 9:36 am

Any employer who relies on credentials, whether a traditional degree or certificate or some other alternative credential whether it be industry certification or “digital badges,” to find and hire their employees is going to be disappointed. If you want to run traditional colleges out of the credential business, then the companies should do their own testing and training and hire people based on a prospective employee’s ability to do the job. But they won’t. That’s why colleges and their credential peddling will continue to prosper. And as a previous poster has already mentioned, alternative credentials have suckered people before, like those poor saps in the technology sector who obtained and paid for their alphabet soup of industry certifications–MCSE, A+, Cisco, etc. Those certificates and the people that hold them (and continue to update them) are now a bigger joke than technology degrees.

tardigrade - September 25, 2011 at 11:41 am

An “online class” is hardly “informal learning”.  You do the author an injustice by assuming so.

Just being raised in the right family or community environment can enable a person to develop post-graduate levels of “critical thinking”, “communication” abilities, etc…without a formal education.  Having to rehash in university what one has already learned, just because one doesn’t have the formal credential, is not only a waste of time, but can deaden one’s delight in learning.

Waldemar1 - September 25, 2011 at 1:21 pm

The existential threats to the higher education establishment are real, and quite apart from the terrible state of the academic job market, the stagnating salaries, and the rise of adjuncthood, the threats should give young adults pause before they bet their lives on an academic career.

This was touched upon by “100 reasons NOT to go to grad school”:
http://100rsns.blogspot.com/2010/11/27-academic-bubble-may-burst.html

Is it fair to wonder if the current system will survive even the next 20 years on anything like its present scale?

mhjhnsn - September 25, 2011 at 2:06 pm

That’s pretty funny.  In fact, you’re hilarious, really ought to take your act on the road.

Timo Kos - September 26, 2011 at 4:48 am

Most traditional
universities operate multiple business models at the same time: fundamental
research & knowledge production require a different approach then teaching
& certifying for the job market. The former business model stresses
academic values like critical thinking & creativity, while the latter stresses
the acquisition & testing of standardized competences, knowledge & skills.
These models are not necessarily compatible. Confusing the two can lead to poor
results in both areas. Considering the ongoing deflation of the value of degree’s
and the souring prices for higher education, this might be the time for the ‘emerging
innovations’ mr. Selingo discussed here to succeed as  ‘disruptive innovations’ in college education.

teapartydoc - September 26, 2011 at 8:51 am

This is a positive move toward a free non-system of education.

3rdtyrant - September 26, 2011 at 10:26 am

“A hit!  A palpable hit!”  You are dead on with this post.  It’s just supplanting one system with another that’s actually fraught with more possible problems than is the current system, because it has private enterprise as it’s driver, and fewer checks on misbehavior.  Well done.

3rdtyrant - September 26, 2011 at 10:28 am

Exactly, Theseus.  As you’ve implied, jargon-up an idea and present it as new, and who knows what glass-eyed moon-fish will swim up to the edge of the tank.  Great post.

3rdtyrant - September 26, 2011 at 10:29 am

To kgodwin, below.  I’m persuaded, and glad that we don’t disagree on those points.

3rdtyrant - September 26, 2011 at 10:31 am

I hope that’s ironic, because otherwise you just think I’m a baboon–an idea that, while not pleasant, I can live with–but wish there were some counter argument.  If it is ironic, the act is available every day on our campus :)

kgodwin - September 26, 2011 at 1:39 pm

Me, too!  Hope you have a great week!

marka - September 26, 2011 at 3:06 pm

Hmm … Many of the posts so far have simply proved the author’s point:

“Whenever a new competitor enters the higher-education market and tries something different, those at traditional colleges criticize the newcomers as not understanding pedagogy.”

Those claiming higher ed has ‘always’ been this or done that, simply don’t have a firm grasp of the history or sociology of higher ed before the 20th century.

This ‘liberal education’ proposition is a misnomer – an idea that has only taken hold among the intelligensia, not among the many who now attend college, having been told by teachers, parents, counselors, and yes, higher ed, that it will indeed lead to better jobs.  Just note all the articles about how grads earn more money, or the latest Obama administration push to get more college students to be prepared for future jobs — lots & lots of talk about jobs, income, keeping up in the global economy, etc., ad nauseum.  Only bloggers here talk about ‘liberal education’ as if that was all higher ed was about.  It may be so for those few bloggers and ‘true’ students, but that ain’t by any means the majority, and certainly not how society as a whole sees it.

Higher ed may at one time have been a gentleman’s polishing school – the companion to gentle-women’s finishing schools – where one need only get a ‘liberal’ education, because one needn’t worry too much about actually getting a job.  Gentlemen were the only ones who could afford a ‘higher’ education, and need only get gentleman Cs to boot.  An academic degree only meant something to other academics, or as a sign of wealth & leisure.  Family would provide the job, if one were needed.

And as for credentialing – whether you call it a ‘badge,’ or a ‘certificate’ or a ‘degree’ they are all intended to serve as a credential of one sort or another.  In the not so distant past, medical doctors did not need a degree to be licensed, nor did lawyers or engineers or accountants.  In some jurisdictions, one still does not need a law degree (California – apprenticeship & pass the Bar); and in many one still does not need an engineering degree to get a professional license (my Dad being but one example); nor is a degree necessary for a Certified Public Accountant (CPA).  By the way, in many cases, the academic degree doesn’t really prepare one for the professional practice – certainly true for law.  The professional tests are often much more rigorous than the academic – being a professionally licensed engineer or a CPA is a much better credential than an academic degree in the world of practice.

jnadler - October 3, 2011 at 8:41 am

Makes me think of Boy Scout Merit Badges.  But, in reality, since Merit Badges were not easy to earn (when I was a Scout), I worry that these badges will soon be given out like trinkets in a cereal box, which will then require the creation of an accreditation program not too dissimilar from what we have now.  Thus demonstrating the great Circle of Life.

rclaycom - October 3, 2011 at 9:04 am

If you want to see a view on why employers complain about the quality of graduates, log on to
http://user.pa.net/~kjclay/pages/credit%20def3.html.  Here you will see that our leading schools have been making it too easy to get the traditional credentials.

rclaycom - October 3, 2011 at 9:08 am

I’ll try this again.  If you want to see a explanation for why employers a dissatisfied with current graduates, log on to http://user.pa.net/~kjclay/pages/credit%20def3.html.

jamesraywatkins - October 3, 2011 at 9:36 am

After three or four decades of using business models, what’s the solution for “fixing” the university system? Business! Not just business, but Apple, the company that has so successfully managed its PR that most folks have forgotten that its innovations are more about marketing and style than technological innovation. This “Applization” of the University has been going on for a very long time, and it has helped no one.

3rdtyrant - October 3, 2011 at 10:48 am

Nicely put (and the Cicero flourish at the end was particularly savory).  To extend your cogent unpacking of the credentialist mentality, the credential provider, finding its credential outmoded, creates a new one that everyone must get, and thus perpetuates itself as sole gatekeeper of the proper credential.  Some will try to draw a false analogy with higher education from this, and I hope this string is wiser than that.  The one major difference between higher education and mere credentialism is that a university in the truest sense attempts to provide its students with skills that work universally–skills in thought, understanding of sociality and people, logic, grammar, etc.  In short, skills that make a person a better person, a better citizen, a better partner or parent, and a better piece (no matter how small) of humanity’s ever-progressing history.  I’m reminded of the old saw, “give a man a fish, he eats for a day.  Teach a man to fish, he will eat for a lifetime.”  Changed slightly, “give a man a credential, he works until he is outmoded.  Teach a man to adapt, think liberally, and work for things, he works (and enjoys it) for a lifetime.”

Because I loved your citation of Cicero, here’s one you probably already know, from Richard de Bury’s Philobiblon, “…what pleasantness of teaching there is in books, how easy, how secret! How safely we lay bare the poverty of human ignorance to books without feeling any shame! They are masters who instruct us without rod or ferule, without angry words, without clothes or money. If you come to them they are not asleep; if you ask and inquire of them they do not withdraw themselves; they do not chide if you make mistakes; they do not laugh at you if you are ignorant.”

susiewatts - October 3, 2011 at 10:50 am

As a private college counselor, I think there is merit is what you say, but I doubt that it will happen in the near future.  When students are job hunting, a college degree seems to be the one document that gets them in the door.  Once they are in, they need to perform.  I believe it will be a while for a different kind of credential to gain that trust from employers.

djhennessey2000 - October 3, 2011 at 12:52 pm

Sorry.  Nothing to contribute to the debate besides noting that throughout the string I couldn’t get Treasure of Sierra Madre off my mind>

Dobbs: “If you’re the police where are your badges?”Gold Hat: “Badges? We ain’t got no badges. We don’t need no badges! I don’t have to show you any stinkin’ badges!”

goeswithoutsaying - October 3, 2011 at 2:21 pm

Yabbut isn’t this “digital badge” another product to be sold along side parchment and calligraphy and  university seals?  And those replaced the itinerant scholar’s letter of intro printed on sheepskin so that it would withstand the rigors of travel on foot.  

This seems yet another round of the higher education industry… which makes jobs out of selling credentials that promise that the bearer can do a job.

I’ll grant you that college does diddly to make someone a good employee.  I’ll grant you that for the sake of the argument…. because I don’t care how employers find better and worse job candidates.  I’ll grant you that whether or not it is true…. which will depend on your definition of a good employee.

But it does bode ill that no one wants much more than a promise in any of these credentials that the bearer can do a job.  I, for one, would like to know that the bearer of any “credential” given after the high school diploma means that the person has been taught to think thoroughly, broadly and compassionately to be a decent and voting citizen.  Yup, the German university and its broad goals got some stuff right.

wturgeon - October 5, 2011 at 8:21 am

This article is a good example of typical thinking in our society: a
college trains you for a career.  The idea of “badges” is really nothing
new at all.  We used to call it on the job experience. 
However, if a college education is about preparing you to live a richer,
more meaningful, less-self centered life, then I am not sure we can
assume a particular business or community group can certify that.  The
value of a college education should be far broader than job training and
a good college recognizes that and does not allow the humanistic aspect
of education to be lost in the credential game.

But then, what do I know?  I teach philosophy!

jholleran - October 6, 2011 at 6:02 am

Digital Badges are a concept well overdue. Traditional brick and ivy Centers of Higher Education have too long suffered the misfortunes of long tradition and limited competition. I have little doubt that quality focused organizations, such as those offering Digital badges, who will add value to individual learning at fair prices will soon drive more effective and efficient leaning in all educational environments.

richardtaborgreene - January 2, 2012 at 1:04 am

When I went from Xerox PARC to U of Chicago Booth School—I lost approximately 60 years in technical and process sophistication.  The deeply dowdy and deeply ideologically rigid “teaching” entrepreneurship 30 years AFTER Silicon Valley changed everything.   People who apply to such schools are, well, not our best, in many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many senses.   After treatment by faculty there, add 30 more “many”s.

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