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February 15, 2012, 12:39 pm

My last post, You Didn’t Hear it from Me, Okay?, prompted a few readers to e-mail me directly to inquire about the ethics of going “off list” to collect intelligence on employment candidates. Questions ranged from, “Are we allowed to contact people other than references given by the candidate?” to “At what point (if ever) do we let the candidate know that we are going to be calling around?”

Let me say at the very start that a hiring committee that relies exclusively on references given by a candidate is just begging for trouble. Most people, regardless of their qualifications and character, can scare up at least three people to say something positive. That’s why I absolutely advocate going “off list” in pursuit of the truth. That said, there are essential protocols to be followed when doing this, and hiring committees who “go rogue” at this step of the process can find themselves in a heap of trouble.

A key rule of thumb is to remember that going off list must be reserved only for serious candidates. While it is great fun to call friends and associates to get the scoop on people who have applied for positions, it is bad, bad form to do so. If your institution or department becomes known for this, you can forget about having good people apply in the future.

It is also critical to seek the candidate’s permission to contact people not on the original reference list. Having the candidate sign a waiver authorizing these inquiries is a very good practice and can offer your institution cover if things go badly during the information-collection process. The waiver should be general enough to allow you to make inquiries of anyone you want. When you make calls to off-list information sources, you can assure them that you have a waiver and even offer to send them a copy.

In some cases, a candidate may be reluctant to allow you free access to any and all people who might have information to share. Depending on the situation, you might want to negotiate a list of people: For example, we need to talk with two former students, two colleagues within your department, a member of a committee on which you served, and so on.

I also think it is good idea to ask candidates if there are people who might have negative personal agendas. I recall speaking with a candidate who let me know that she had filed sexual-harassment charges against a colleague in her department, and he had been bent on destroying her ever since. When the search committee spoke with him, he didn’t mention that, but he provided an extensive list of her professional failings — none of which were corroborated by her other colleagues.

That story leads me to my final piece of advice: Corroboration is key. When, for example, an off-list reference says, “He’s known to steal others’ research ideas,” your response should be, “Can you give me the names of others who can tell me more about that?” In many cases, the response will be serious stammering. In the event that potential corroborators are provided, it’s essential that you contact them, but the conversation should not begin with, “I’ve been told [candidate] is known to steal research ideas. What can you tell me about that?” The last thing you want is to be charged with defamation of character when that gets back to the candidate.

The stakes for each new hire are high, so search committees have an obligation to vet candidates thoroughly. There are ways to do this well and there are ways to do this poorly. What is your experience in collecting or providing off-list references?

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  • bizdean

    “…a hiring committee that relies exclusively on references given by a candidate is just begging for trouble.” So right. Seen it happen too many times.

  • barrister23

    I have been an employment lawyer for more than 20 years and disagree 100% with Ms. Vaillancourt’s article!  ”Going off” the reference list is nothing short of a disaster waiting to happen.  It is fraught with legal mine fields due to the extremely litigious environment in which we all live and work in. Even a signed release may not be sufficient to protect a business from civil liability.

    I do however recommend “going off” the reference list if the person doing so is a highly trained and experienced H.R. professional. I do not think the practice of “going off” the submitted reference list is wise if the person(s) doing so are search committee members who are not trained H.R. professionals.  I have seen too many “screw ups” in the search and hiring process by search committee members who have the best of intentions, but are not well trained or experienced in the hiring process.  Reference checks should be left to professional H.R. personnel. Otherwise, “hello lawsuit.”

  • withatwist

    Amen!  You wouldn’t believe the unethical tactics some hiring committees will use.  I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again:  An HR professional should be present for every single step of the hiring, tenure, and promotion processes.

    My favorite tactic?  When the committees send the grad students out for beers with the candidate.  Grad students can ask personal questions.  The alcoholic social lubricant loosens things up.  The candidate is probably still a grad student himself, or very recently was one, so he feels a connection to the grad students. He spills a few beans with a few drops of booze.  And then what happens?  The grad students, always the brown-nosers, report everything back to the faculty, with commentary. The faculty don’t even have to ask for the information. The grad students contaminate the search, whether they intend to or not, because they have nothing to lose by doing so. The faculty, however, know full-well what to expect from such informal grad student/candidate gatherings. They can get the dirt they want without getting dirt on their own hands.

  • a_vaillancourt

    barrister23 — You raise important points. In a perfect world, search activities would be managed by people who know what they are doing. Alas, higher education is not a perfect world. The intended point of my post was to suggest there is balance between relying exclusively on references provided by the candidate and reckless calling around. If we are going to leave hiring in the hands of search committees, we need to be sure they know how to vet candidates thoroughly, legally and respectfully.

  • graddirector

    I understand the legal mine field.  However, what does a committee do when they are considering a senior hire with tenure?  A few years ago we made such a hire completely relying on “on list” references.  Once the person was in place however, they turned out to be a complete sociopath (this is the only colleague I ever filed a complaint against in my life).  It was also clear that the letters were written to just get rid of this person since speaking to others at this person’s prior institution later made it clear that they were very pleased to lose this person.  While luckily we dont have this “mistake” any longer since they decided to move on to another  job, we could have been stuck for 25 years or more otherwise.

  • antiutopia

    More acceptable given limitations, but the bottom line is that it’s also very easy for good candidates to get derailed by dysfunctional institutions. I know what the serious educators at my institution would say about me, but I also know what the diploma mill people would say — and an outside person would have no institutional context at all for either sets of comments. You shouldn’t go off list unless you’re also willing to investigate the people you’re questioning.  Do they have institutional or educational values even remotely similar to your own? Seriously — there are a great many very educationally unethical people at my institution whom I don’t want saying good things about me. If these people validate me, I’m not a good person.

  • oldphilprof

    One key notion we have employed is to go off list only if a member of the search committee personally knows someone at the candidate’s institution.  True, this can provide rather distanced information if the committee member knows an old friend from grad school who is now in the math dept. at the candidate’s present school and the candidate teaches in the English dept.  But unless the candidate is at a really large institution, or has been there only a very short time, we can usually get some pretty reliable and useful information.  It may take a series of phone calls, but it can be extremely enlightening.

  • withatwist

    Hm, you know something, graddirector? I think you’ve added a dynamic to this discussion which needs to be explored further.  Something I’ve thought about, though, is this:  Why don’t we require copies of the staff member’s annual departmental evaluations?  Of course, this would only be possible to do with the short-listed candidates, and probably only those invited for the job talk.  

    But should those evaluations be kept secret?  I don’t think so.  A truly stellar candidate will have nothing to hide.  We require transcripts of coursework, which are protected by FERPA and therefore arguably more “secure” than annual performance reviews.  We also require teaching evaluations from students, which tend to be either glowing or abysmal with little in between.  So why not employment records?   We would also be able to see more candid reviews of the candidate’s suitability as a teacher, scholar, and colleague and could balance hearsay with written evidence.  We would be better-equipped to make much more holistic hiring decisions on more senior candidates.

  • sisgett

     Are you crazy?

  • withatwist

    If by “crazy” you mean to ask me if I’m for transparent hiring, tenure, and promotion deliberations that promote fairness and equality in the workplace, then yes, I’m crazy.  Sorry, but I don’t want someone’s funky politics and fragile ego being the deciding factors when it comes to my livelihood and life’s work.

  • http://twitter.com/ProfessorIsIn Karen Kelsky

    I disagree completely with this advice, and believe that the course it advocates is both unethical and legally untenable.   Candidates have a right to establish their public profile and to be judged on that alone.  To introduce random “personal” elements into the search (this committee member called up that friend who heard from someone else that….) allows a potentially unlimited number of people to express opinions about the candidate with no public vetting process for the validity or soundness of those opinions.  The space for vendettas and sabotage that it opens up, particularly in cases where a candidate is seeking to leave a dysfunctional and backstabbing environment in the first place, is enormous.  I’ll leave it to lawyers to talk about the legal vulnerabilities it produces.  I never saw this done while I was active in searches, and I hope that committees refrain from adding this element to an already treacherous search process.

  • yellow1

    When I was in grad school, I was one of those grad students invited to hear candidates give presentations and be a part of panels. However, I learned MUCH more about the candidates as part of the groups that would simply eat lunch or dinner with candidates. Or have drinks. Each time, you better believe we were asked about our impressions.

  • jamesrovira

    See — hiring someone with tenure is a special case indeed. I think in that case you may want to be up front with the candidate about the process and get written permission, as the article recommended anyhow.

  • lippertc

    In the business world, other employers comments are relied upon heavily, compared to references.  I like the “wavier” for a paper trail documentation just in case.

  • bbr123

    Reality is different than the
    basis for this article. Assumptions are being made about the higher education
    workplace which we all know are not true.  First, many people are not supervised by
    someone who is good at doing so. Second, people offering work performance
    opinions, both positive and negative, are not always qualified to do so. Third,
    most organizations do not have an evaluation process in place to deal with the
    problem employee. The process is built for a standard yearly evaluation for
    people who are doing well. Fourth, working in higher education is political. Fifth,
    not having HR as involved allows committees to cut corners when they want to do
    so. Based upon personal experiences, people have called me when they were called
    off the list. The references were good but it appears that committee admitted
    to calling them off the list and asked for the people to talk freely. After obtaining
    positions I was told who they called off the list and what was said. Again,
    good things were said but what if they were not? With that said I agree with
    the attorney about this being a legal liability.

     

  • mkni4658

    Who wouldn’t sympathize with the administrative and departmental desire not to be hoodwinked by a sociopath? After all, the reasons for subverting due process and procedures for vetting a candidate and keeping the sunshine on it for all involved rest on the generalized fear (as opposed to some specific and legitimate cause that needs to be followed up on) of a sociopath and liar that would justify it.  Guilty until proven otherwise, using a methodology of rumor and connections. Wonder what page of the Faculty Handbook that is on? If the actual reference system is so unreliable as it now widely exists, the better question would be to what extent is that so, and how should that be reformed.

  • girl37

    I may be naive, or maybe I am just an atypical “normal” person and think most others are too (?), but for an assistant professor position at least, the suggestion of the need to “collect intelligence on employment candidates” seems extreme. You do your best to excel at research, teaching, and service, you submit letters of recommendation and teaching evaluations, but then the hiring committee tries to dredge up negative opinions about you?

    It’s almost like someone who has been burned in a relationship in the past: instead of going into a new relationship with an open heart, they’re suspicious that the new person is a cheater and a liar so they try to find negative information by snooping around after the first date.

    As a candidate I might sign a waiver, but that would be the end of it for me. Any committee that was that suspicious from the start wouldn’t be the type of future colleagues I’d want to work with.

  • drjfox

    This article is extremely lopsided, narrow and is setting up universities and their departments for serious lawsuits.  Going off list is inviting major trouble and only the most obtuse would entertain such an idea.  Let me explain how deeply flawed this article is from my perspective.  Factors such as race, gender, institutional norms, and insecurities of some of the faculty and hiring administrators can drive selectivity of data considered for any candidate.  You never know the context of the situation and not all candidates are willing to share everything early on for fear of having their livelihood cut off.  It is best to be mindful of the complexity in these situations and stay with the listed references and hire if it seems like a good fit.  Yes, we take a chance, but so does the candidate.  We all have colleagues who could never land a job in today’s market and yet they are tenured and inflicting pain on a lot of people around them.  Some are even “leaders” of departments.  Everyone deserves a fair shake, and taking a chance is taking a chance – and it is both ways.  My advice is to e-shred this article and pretend you never saw it.

  • sisgett

     No, by “crazy” I mean the whole sending grad students out to drink with the candidate thing.  I can think of a ton of things that could go badly vs. very little that could go well.

  • simplesimon

    Vaillancourt have you served on a search committee lately?  Very often such committees are populated with people pulled from far corners of the campus; they may know their subject area well (academic or professional) but most of them know absolutely nothing about human resources and hiring.  Even the most well intentioned search committee chair/member should not be vetting candidates as you describe in your article.  That belongs in the hands of search consultant/executive recruiter.  I am hardly a fan of head hunters, but this kind of sensitive homework is exactly what you are paying them for.  As both a member and a candidate, I have found search committees to be remarkably dysfunctional; my experience with executive recruiters has been the exact opposite.

    I am inclined to agree with antiutopia, “You shouldn’t go off list unless you’re also willing to investigate the people you’re questioning.”  Are you willing and able to do that?  Yes, we owe it to our institutions and ourselves to do due diligence, but the reality is there are limits to what references can tell you that is useful.  

  • simplesimon

    Vaillancourt have you served on a search committee lately?  Very often such committees are populated with people pulled from far corners of the campus; they may know their subject area well (academic or professional) but most of them know absolutely nothing about human resources and hiring.  Even the most well intentioned search committee chair/member should not be vetting candidates as you describe in your article.  That belongs in the hands of search consultant/executive recruiter.  I am hardly a fan of head hunters, but this kind of sensitive homework is exactly what you are paying them for.  As both a member and a candidate, I have found search committees to be remarkably dysfunctional; my experience with executive recruiters has been the exact opposite.

    I am inclined to agree with antiutopia, “You shouldn’t go off list unless you’re also willing to investigate the people you’re questioning.”  Are you willing and able to do that?  Yes, we owe it to our institutions and ourselves to do due diligence, but the reality is there are limits to what references can tell you that is useful. 

  • glomzx

    All of the pros and cons raised raised so far seem legitimate and worth considering, but in the end I side with supporting the practice (but only for the finalists).  Perhaps it was my comment in the previous article that raised the off-list issue, as per disasters in hiring and also noting that investments in new faculty are quite costly in terms of money ($1,000,000+ over a professional lifetime) and academic program successes/failures, among numerous intangibles.   Search committees basing such critical and expensive decisions on only 3-4 applicant-selected references are making huge gambles.  Certainly following HR policies and practices is critical and ensuring that off-list inquiries are above board is necessary.  Perhaps the expensive use of professional head hunters or having the HR department in an active first-person role in every search could be justified, but not likely acceptable in these fiscally constrained times.

    When I was an applicant for my current position, the dean called and asked permission to speak to unnamed others off my supplied list.  Con: On the one hand, did I really have a choice?  A No response would have raised potentially dooming red flags (“He’s hiding something awful; forget it.”), but a Yes could have opened the door to several major detractors who could have sunk my chances if they voiced only their side of controversies or incompatibilities.  Of course I gave permission, but it made me nervous. 

    Pro: On the other hand, I quickly understood the logic and legitimacy of the request.  Interviews are two-way processes–each side is evaluating the other in order to make a life decision in the end.  I was free to explore the department, school, and town before, during, and after the official visit (or even prior to applying, as I’ve done), investigating everything (within ethic boundaries, of course) and talking to people (students and faculty) on my own, without notice or permission.  It was my livelihood at stake, so the prerogative was, and remains, justifiable.  Thus, giving the search committee a bit of additional latitude to research me was a no-brainer.  Obviously if the fit didn’t work (either way–mine and/or theirs), it would have been much better for everyone involved to discover that and make a decision up front rather than after after employment (consider the even worse consequences otherwise).  The system works for both sides when done ethically and correctly.

  • a_vaillancourt

    simplesimon: Yes; I have served on a search committee recently and you are absolutely right that many search committee members are not prepared to make appropriate inquiries. That’s why good guidance is important. The practice of going “off list” in an ad hoc manner is rampant and I am consistently horrified about the way people dig for dirt. If a search committee wants to go “off list”, inquiries must be collected in a professional manner and with candidates’ full knowledge and consent.

  • highway61

    sisgett I’m pretty sure withatwist was using the grad student story as #1 example of what NOT to do. As in “the grad students contaminate the search” etc. A whole bunch of things that can go wrong and all that. 

  • rp1953retired

    Many years ago I lost out on a position I thought I was perfectly qualified for.   My visit to campus went very well and I thought there would be no problem.  I found out later that someone on the search committee knew a person in my office who had applied for the job I held and had lost out to me.  Of course, this colleague was not on my list of references but, nevertheless, was called and proceeded to smear me. I’m now gratefully retired from the whole hell of higher ed.      

  • deliajones

    If the candidate is notified, in writing, that the committee will go off the reference list, does that afford any legal protection?

  • deliajones

    The other factor, referenced earlier, is that even if you go off list, people often cover up knowledge of significant problems, say fairly glowing things, highlight a few strengths without mentioning significant weaknesses, thus creating an inflated  sense of the candidate’s value.  I’m not sure why they do this–we can all speculate–but off list comments may not always degrade a candidate; rather they may unduly inflate a candidate. I think the only solution is to allow plenty of time for the committee to spend with the candidates, especially in small group situations.

    I would also caution about the Search firms themselves, especially those with one or few principles who have retired from higher ed themselves. These principles may be looking to place a “friend,” and their “unbiased” advice is often VERY biased.

  • deliajones

    And, with all finalists for at least Presidential searches, criminal background checks should be purchased from a reliable vendor. Naturally the candidates would be asked to acknowledge that this would occur, and sign off on it.  Just ensure that it is a deep check, not a run through a search engine.

  • garcon

     Great idea, but what happens if the guy doen’t drink, or soda only?

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