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What Else Might One Do With an English Ph.D.?

September 21, 2011, 12:13 pm

This post is prompted by a ritualistic annual event:  the appearance of the autumn job information list for English Departments across America.

The initials would be cryptic to any but an insider—the JIL appears in the ADE bulletin online every mid-September. For the last 35 years, the document has been a grim reminder of how bad employment prospects are in English and American literature.  For decades now, English departments across the country have cumulatively produced an average of 1,000 or so Ph.D.’s per year, even though the number of tenure-track jobs advertised each year has, for years, numbered fewer than 500.  Let’s face it, for a long time now, getting, or even trying to get, a Ph.D. in English has just been a bad bet. Just ask Chronicle writer Thomas H. Benton, author of “Just Don’t Go,” and, as if that weren’t convincing enough, “Just Don’t Go, Part 2.”

For a long time now, the discipline of English has been characterized by the absence of a job market.  The profession of English studies is not “in crisis,” as many continue to characterize it.  “Crisis,” as I’ve argued before, is a dramaturgical term, suggesting an urgent problem for which there is a miraculous and immediate solution. Not true: Everyone from Ph.D. students to those who are about to retire should realize that the situation in which we find ourselves is not a “crisis”—it’s normal professional life.

So how do we address this non-crisis, this dismal state of normality?  I’ll make a radical suggestion in my next post, but for now, I’d like to look at the psychological dimension of the problem.  A great many new graduate students enter Ph.D. programs in English (and other disciplines) not realizing how unlikely it is that they will eventually land a tenure-track academic job. Many simply continue along a path that they hope will lead them there: They accept position after position as adjunct teachers. Why?  It allows them to do work that’s familiar to them (teaching) and to stay connected to the academy.  It can, however, nurture the usually false hope that they will eventually segue into tenure-track positions. That does happen—I know people who have realized that career path—but it’s a real longshot.

So the more common, and realistic, professional drama is this: What happens if I’m a Ph.D. student, realize how unlikely it is that I will get a tenure-track job (maybe realize that I don’t have the determination to complete my degree)?  The answer, increasingly a part of conversations I have with other Directors of Graduate Studies and Directors of Graduate Admissions, is that we should put ourselves in a position to prepare our Ph.D. students for jobs outside academia. But I’m dismayed by the tone in which this conversation is often held. The question is raised, in one form or another: How can our Ph.D students opt for careers outside of academia and still “retain their dignity”?  I wonder why, given the job numbers, the rhetoric of “dignity,” and thus its opposite number, “shame,” enter the conversation.  I believe we need to find a different way of talking about what happens to our Ph.D.’s.  More to come.

 

  • A necessary P.S.:  here was the first comment on my last blog post:  “Sophomoric. I would invite the author to seek the counsel of competent measurement scientists instead of blowing phlogiston into straw men.”  It’s disheartening to write for Innovations, when any imbecile can write an anonymous comment—no counterargument, no substance.  I propose that The Chronicle require its subscribers to identify themselves and state their status and affiliation.  If you’re a disillusioned failure, everyone who reads your comment should know that you’re a disillusioned failure.  I’m not, of course, speaking for The Chronicle.  I’m just amazed at the vast range of civility I’ve encountered.

 

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  • chuckkle

    A couple of points.  One, personal and anedotal: I got my PhD in literature at a time (1973) when the job market in lit collapsed (we didn’t see it coming) due to an overproduction of grad students (often men trying to avoid the Vietnam draft) and a budget crunch as the “guns and butter” economy hit a wall.  I worked fundraising for a community organization and as a bus driver and then got adjunct teaching, though I had to retrain myself for remedial and basic composition courses and also ESL and “writing for business”.  In the meantime I’d picked up another specialty–film, and got hired to teach it in a tenure track job (most of my generation came to film from other areas).  What I conclude from this is that you have to learn to be flexible and adaptable and learn new things, and especially to be able to teach those intro courses well.  So, I guess I’m one of those “longshots” but you can reduce the odds by being versatile and being open to moving into developing and expanding areas.  I never gave up on thinking of myself as an intellectual before being an academic.

    Second, I’m not sure what you mean by “dignity/shame.”  Is there some shame or loss of dignity in leaving academe?  Yes, I’ve seen that assumption in some elitist academic circles, or the long term results in those who think they’ve “failed” by ending up below a Research I school.  But isn’t that their problem, one of defective character and misleading themselves?   I once had an interview at a small liberal arts school where I realized the small English department consisted of just such a group of alcoholics who were looking for someone to join them (and keep their secret).  Dignity consists in walking away from that kind of crap.

    Chuck Kleinhans

  • bscmath78

    Professor Donoghue, your “P.S.” was quite intriguing.  You have demonstrated your attitude towards some substantive criticism of some of your articles via “no counterargument, no substance” as well. For example, your lack of response to my comments on your comments on “Academically Adrift”:

    http://chronicle.com/blogs/innovations/richard-vedder-on-the-ills-of-higher-education/28716#comment-156293507
     
    and my comments on your comments on productivity:
     
    http://chronicle.com/blogs/innovations/a-response-to-mark-bauerleins-productivity-post/30013#comment-279257914

    I found you counter-argument to a previous poster “when any imbecile can write an anonymous comment” not much of a counter-argument.   In that thread, others took on that poster with their own counter-arguments that seemed more substantive than your “P.S.”.

    You wrote, “If you’re a disillusioned failure, everyone who reads your comment should know that you’re a disillusioned failure.”
     
    Yes, think of “failures” like Vermeer,  Hans van Meegran (painted and sold Vermeer forgeries to the Nazis),  Albert Einstein (could only get a patent clerk job through a friend), Gregor Mendel (pea experiments ignored), Alfred Russel Wallace (sent his paper on evolution to Darwin for comment) or every artist who committed suicide, lived or died in poverty or obscurity.  

    By some people’s standards, everyone who doesn’t get a tenured position would be “a disillusioned failure”, but I don’t see how that affects the applicability of their comments, in fact, their comments might be much more informative than those of a tenured person.

    It is disheartening to see a suggested requirement “to identify themselves and state their status and affiliation” .  It would seem people are to be judged not by what they write, their logic, their use of evidence, but by their “status and affiliation”.

    The “P.S.” also appears to contain the concept that it should be easy to make reprisals and punish those who disagree with you.   Do you find the “secret ballot” similarly offensive?

    In “The Emperor’s New Clothes” only a small child is “ignorant” enough to state the truth.   Since it is a fairy tale, the adults quickly accept the child’s truth and the child is NOT punished. Hans Christian Andersen didn’t know English Lit (being Danish), didn’t have a Ph.D. and started work as an apprentice to a weaver, so what could he know? Not much “status and affiliation” there.

    “‘But he hasn’t got anything on,” a little child said.”

    http://www.andersen.sdu.dk/vaerk/hersholt/TheEmperorsNewClothes_e.html

  • bscmath78

    “I have seen three emperors in their nakedness, and the sight was not inspiring.”

    It is true that knowing who said this makes it more amusing (to me), but since he didn’t have a Ph.D., didn’t have tenure and didn’t study English Lit, I won’t trouble you with additional info.

  • bscmath78

    I forgot to mention Rembrandt the famous bankrupt (and sharp dealer in stiffing creditors). His painting “The Shooting Company of Frans Banning Cocq” was cut down to size so it would fit its new smaller allocated display location.  It also got such a dark coating that it became known as “The Night Watch.”

    “The Conspiracy of Claudius Civilis” was rejected by those who commissioned it (Amsterdam city council). It was radically downsized to sell it to someone else since Rembrandt needed the money.  Sounds like “a disillusioned failure.”  But why should he be silenced?

  • Guest

    Hi, thank you for this article. There is certainly a lot of discussion that needs to take place about the future of English PhDs. For my part, I would suggest that we do more career intervention at the English MA stage. Maybe if we had a clearer sense of what one does with an English MA, then we could encourage more people to get into non-academic careers or alternative academic careers before going ABD — thereby saving them a great deal of hurt and sweat.

    At my campus (Cal State Northridge) we have begun a great new course, 698, which is an apprenticeship where we go over all the alternative careers the students should consider. Here is my syllabus:

    http://textontrial.blogspot.com/2011/04/english-698.html

    For what it’s worth. Some of us are hard at work in the lower trenches trying to put forth humane solutions.

    PS. Don’t sweat the comments.

  • mickfan

    Thanks, Frank.  I agree with your P.S.  I rarely read the comments because so many people who obviously do not know academe, or know it from such a small window, post silliness.  My “screen name” is Mickfan because I love the Rolling Stones, but I will identify myself: Kim Martin Long, Associate Dean of Arts and Sciences from Shippensburg University–PhD in English (promoted to full professor before moving to administration).  I’ve seen this life from lots of angles–grad student, adjunct, tenure-track then tenured professor, administrator.  I appreciate your article.  I have been lucky, or have made my own luck along the way. . . .When I started my doctoral program in 1989, my advisor said, “Give up.  You’ll never get a job.  You’re too old, at 34.”  I finished in 4 years and got a job. . . .

    BUT, this is not 1993, and I realize times are tough.  We do need to be honest with grad students and provide them with all the tools they need to be successful while pursuing their passion, wherever that success takes them. 

  • jeff_winger

    You know Frank, on your PS. I think it is ok. Most people recognized those comments that are, well, stupid. But, those anonymous outbursts are productive, if only because they show the irrational bias lurking below, the bias that, if you knew my real name, I would be forced to hide from you — because you’re a big shot in my field, etc.
    I know it is annoying, but I think we should go the other way and let the ugly underbelly (:-) of bad logic, bad manners, etc. hang out, at least in these informal places, so that we can see it. It is there all the time anyway, at least here it occasionally pops into view.

  • cleverclogs

    I think the “dignity/shame” rhetoric is part of a larger problem that English departments will face when they start looking for ways of preparing their grad students for jobs outside academia, specifically, the fact that so few English professors have ever had a job outside of academia. (And thus their misinformation about what happens in other industries leads them to think these industries are somehow “shameful” or soul-crushing – a truly laughable idea.) Most English professors will have no useful or accurate information or advice about outside jobs. Why should they? Keeping up with the intricacies of academia is enough. (But they also shouldn’t pretend that they do know anything about outside industries, either.)

    Having said that, I think Mr. Donoghue raises a necessary conversation, and I look forward to future posts.But as a newly minted English PhD who has known for a long time that academia was not for me (and who had several interviews in other industries and a few job offers), I’d like to suggest two “radical” solutions of my own:

    Suggestion 1:
    Make it clear that the PhD is a professional degree. Its purpose is ONLY to prepare people to become professors. Don’t want to be a professor? The PhD will do you no good. (Indeed, it might be one of those things you’d need to hide on your resume in order to get a foot in the door of another industry).

    Suggestion 2:
    Encourage students to write a “strategic” dissertation with a view to a future outside profession. (I know, this change would entail a real re-evaluation of the purpose of the dissertation, which would not be a bad thing.)

  • mycantarella

    I had the pleasure last week of creating and moderating a panel discussion for students by alumni at my own alma mater Bryn Mawr College. The topic was “Your Major is Not Your Life”. We had 2 english majors, one classics major and one economics major. All have careers totally unrelated to their majors except for the economics major who is in finance but who also took lots of literature courses. I was a political science major who began life as an advertising account manager (and after 15 years of corporate life did my doctorate in American Studies). The clear message from every one of us was how important communications skills have been to our careers. Perhaps first and foremost. We also acknowledged the critical thinking skills, research skills and learning about people through our majors. The careers represented on the panel ranged from litigator, to government regulator in health care to government and not-for-profit management around education and equity issues. None felt that being an english major was a problem– indeed it had been an asset. The pursuit of a doctorate conveys a depth of purpose and rigor. I have known colleagues with doctorates in sociology and history who have gone on to head government agencies and create multimillion dollar firms. Ultimately applying your skills to a passion seems to work just fine.We need to take the fear out of the discussion and share the optional paths.
    Marcia Cantarella, PhD Author of I CAN Finish College.

  • 3rdtyrant

    In the great tradition of John Milton’s Areopagitica.  Nicely done, and a good point.  Without illogic and impassioned, substanceless bluster, how will logic and substantive, objective argument be identifiable to some?  And how better to judge the quality of argument than among its grotty, poorly planned and even more poorly executed companions?

  • ramanujam

    A PhD in English needn’t just mean a PhD in literature.  It could be one in English language teaching (ELT), too.  When I decided to do research after some years of teaching both literature and English as a second language (in India), I opted for the latter for my research not just because I thought my ESL teaching would inform my research and my research influence my classroom teaching but also because the prospects were brighter for an ELT professional.  In India also the situation is grim for people who have specialised in ELE (English language education), but those whose communication skills are good move without much difficulty into corporate training, soft skills training and various others.

  • betterschool

    “What else might one do with an English Ph.D.?” 

    Many things and most often very well.

    Savvy employers (not the ones invented by Hollywood or the egregiously unprincipled outliers exploited by the media to secure ratings/money) often seek intelligence, critical thinking skills, and analytic abilities over knowledge related to specific roles. If the newly minted Ph.D. possesses these attributes, employers in virtually all sectors will be interested in hiring them to fill some role when the need arises. I recommend that these individuals draw on their knowledge of the literature to develop a creative approach of presenting themselves to potential employers.

    A missing component of this discussion goes to adaptability and work ethic. In a former life, I hired many Ph.D. level individuals for their intelligence and not for their specific education. My personal preference was analytic philosophers because most of them could think clearly and independent of emotion. Many of these individuals possessed minors in English or related disciplines. Occasionally these individuals failed but not at a rate any greater than other kinds of hires, probably less. When they did fail, it was often because they had not acquired a sense of timeliness in their performance. It concerns me that public institutions can produce competent scientists, engineers, and medical professionals in half to three-quarters the time it takes to produce a Ph.D. in English. I can see no no rational foundation for that difference but perhaps someone can offer one. I do not know the mean time to degree in Mr. Donoghue’s department so I am not making a specific reference.

    BTW: I am the one who suggested that Mr. Donoghue seek the counsel of a competent measurement scientist before further displaying how little he knew about the topic in his blog. I stand by that comment and would invite anyone who knows anything about measurement theory and science to read his blog and draw their own conclusions. I do not find it uncivil to point out distortions and misrepresentations that have damaging effects on creative development.

  • dank48

    Leaving academia is not a cause for shame or, heaven help us, loss of dignity. The outside world offers challenges and opportunities on a greater scale and, in many cases, with more genuine connection to reality, which need not always be mediated by an adviser whose sole experience of the world has taken place on or near campus.

  • bscmath78

    Ah, [Ph.D.], let us be true
    To one another!  for the world, . . .
    Nor certitude, nor peace, nor help for pain; . . .

    “Its melancholy, long, withdrawing roar” reaching across time.
     
    With apologies to “a disillusioned failure” (at least as a bridegroom).

  • betterschool

    Well said Dank48. I and many of my colleagues have been in and out of the academy over a lifetime. I value the very different challenges and opportunities each position has brought and would feel the loss of any of them. Too much is made of the differences between the realms and not enough is made of the tremendous opportunities for synergy brought about by those who work across them. 

    I also agree with Mr. Donoghue in noting how inappropriate is the notion of ‘dignity’ as applied to this discussion. I have no objective findings but my impression is that academia suffers under more erroneous stereotypes of business than the converse.

  • dank48

    Very well put indeed, BetterSchool. There is of course a fair amount of ignorance both ways. However, most people outside academia have spent a fair amount of time inside it; the converse is of course true in terms of the day-to-day, but probably not professionally or even long term, other than summer jobs. There’s plenty of misunderstanding both ways, and as you point out, exaggerating the differences is, ironically, a big part of it.

    Not all, or even most, undergraduates go on to grad school. A bright student who decides not to enter grad school may or may not be a loss to academia, but she or he is not thereby classifiable as a failure of some kind. There are many ways to contribute what one has to offer, not all of them in a classroom.

    Also–departing from the high road for a spell–the outside world does not have an exact counterpart to Rate My Professor. 

  • jeangoodwin

    You end the post with a comment about communication:  ”we need to find a different way of talking.”  Isn’t the real problem about the content of that communication?  Do English faculty actually know what people with PhDs can do outside academia?

  • dpmccain

    Having just been terminated, ( I am still bedfuddled as to the real reason), I have time to catch up and post with abandon.  Your blog was timely for me, as 34 years after an undergraduate degree was earned (I was a rotten student…and I mark it up to listening to people who told me what I should do), two teaching credentials, and a Master’s degree (Educational Administration), I wish I had been an English major.  My sketchy undergraduate transcripts reveal excellent grades in 19th century literature, Shakespeare, Introduction to Latin American Literature, British Authors, and a few others. 

    Instead of pursuing what I should have, I changed my major from Radio/TV broadcasting to Home Economics (cripes), and suffered through marginally competent professors at out of state tuition, and still never learned how to hand bind a button hole or hand prick a zipper.  But I suppose that’s on me.  I was an idiot.  I should have run home, (not gotten married the first time to the idiot I married), and reenrolled at the local community college.  BUT.  now, here I am 59, and unemployed (again). 

    How dare I teach the Toulmin Model of Argument?  How dare I correct papers with notes in the margin…and who in the heck do I think I am expecting that a student proofread?  Many of my former colleagues thought I was an English major…no, I just teach like one.  I love language, writing, but cannot seem to diagram a sentence (something I now have time to master).  To be an English teacher is a wonderful thing,  I have had a few experiences that I hold dear in my memory.  Teaching the Epic of Gilgamesh to 6th grade students while my colleagues presented some series of chapter books designed for nothing more than keeping girls busy and boring the snot out of little boys was a triumph.   

    I remember a colleague, who was “exited” at the middle school at which I first began my teaching.  He and I were talking one day, and he said,  “I bet you thought teaching English meant  you would sit with students and discuss what everyone had read.” ..Yes, but .not the case.  not the reality…not even close to the dream. 

    Teachers who could not construct a complete sentence without using a double negative were placed as English teachers because they “weren’t no good at math”. So I taught math/science for 2 years.  I taught them as English classes and students devoured word problems, and we read the science text (always badly written) together. 

    Reality is an awful thing.  As I see the number of remedial English classes fill the pages of classes available at a local university, yet there were 8 students in the pedagogy class to become an English teacher, I am saddened. 

    Do I agree with the author?  Absolutely,  there are positions for trainers in corporate environments, just waiting for English teachers, but there is a difference between academic life and corporate life, and English majors should be warned…and by all means…take some classes in multimedia…the golden doors will open, and you can read and research for your own edification.  There is no loss of dignity, and the mortgage gets paid.  Just allow me to turn back the clock…10 or 15 years…but wishful thinking doesn’t get me registered for the GRE.  Oh…for a portrait in the attic.