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The College-for-All Debate

June 9, 2011, 6:13 pm

The goal of “College for All”—the notion that every student should engage in some form of postsecondary education—was hotly debated this week, from a forum sponsored by Education Week to the pages of The New Yorker. Individuals on both sides of the controversy make cogent points, in my view, but I think there is more reason to be troubled by the push-back against, than by the aspiration behind, College for All.

President Obama has strongly supported the idea that all Americans should obtain at least one year of postsecondary training or education. Major resistance was voiced in February when a highly respected group of leaders at the Harvard Graduate School of Education published a report entitled, “Pathways to Prosperity.”

Taken literally, the goal of college for all does have a certain similarity to the widely discredited goal in K-12 education that 100% of students be proficient in math and reading by 2014. Neither is ever going to happen, and, as an empirical matter, many jobs do not require a college education. Given high failure rates among many college students—who incur substantial debt, yet acquire no degree—the Pathways to Prosperity argument, as represented by Harvard’s Ron Ferguson in the recent Education Week debate, suggests that beginning in K-12 schooling, students should be shown multiple paths, of which college is only one.

In the debate, Amy Wilkins of the Education Trust raised concerns that alternative pathways would lead to a watered-down high school curriculum and a tracking system for low-income and minority students. Ferguson, alternatively, suggested that stratification should be addressed as a separate issue, and emphasized that all work should be considered “honorable,” even if it doesn’t require a college degree.

This is complicated debate, but I have four reasons to want to keep the pressure on for greater college attainment for students from all backgrounds.

* First, the biggest job growth between 2008 and 2018 is expected to come in occupations requiring high levels of education. Examining data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, Peter Sacks, writing in Minding the Campus, finds that jobs requiring a master’s degree will see the greatest growth (21.2 percent), followed by jobs requiring a doctoral degree (20.5 percent), a professional degree (19.6 percent), and a bachelor’s degree (14.2 percent). By contrast, jobs requiring a high-school degree plus on-the-job vocational training are forecast to grow less than 10 percent.

* Second, while all work is honorable, not all kinds of work are honored in the marketplace, particularly today, given the precipitous decline in organized labor. After World War II, when organized labor represented a third of private sector workers, it was possible to earn a middle-class wage without any postsecondary education because workers banded together and fought collectively for a fair share of productivity gains. Today, with labor representing less than 7 percent of private-sector workers, the union avenue to a middle-class standard of living has significantly narrowed, leaving postsecondary education as the primary path open to economic success.

* Third, while Ferguson suggested that stratification and the existence of multiple pathways present separate issues, I worry that formalizing multiple pathways at an early age will reinforce stratification. Going in, we have a fairly good idea of which sort of high-school students will end up on college-bound tracks (those from middle- and upper- class families) and which sort will be channeled into “alternative” pathways (those from low-income and working-class households). If we had a well-oiled machinery of meritocracy, which identified talent and drive with great accuracy, divvying up students into different paths in high school might be highly efficient. But there are profound inequalities of opportunity at the K-12 level, such that the least socioeconomically advantaged student is expected to score 399 points lower on the math and verbal portions of the SAT than the most economically advantaged student. Even among high-scoring students (those in the top quartile), only 44 percent of low-socioeconomic-status students attend a four-year college, compared with 80 percent of those from high socioeconomic-status households. A system which pushes hard to get more students into college will put greater pressure on the K-12 and higher-education system to address these inequalities, harvesting the enormous untapped talents of low-income and working-class students. By contrast, I worry that a system that preaches that there are many pathways to success and that all work is honorable will find more of an audience with young working-class students than those from more affluent families.

* Fourth, college isn’t only about preparing students for the work force. It is also about preparing students to be intelligent and well-informed individuals who can make important decisions incumbent upon citizens in a democracy. As Louis Menand writes in The New Yorker, students should read certain books in college “because they teach you things about the world and yourself that, if you do not learn them in college, you are unlikely to learn anywhere else.” Will terminating studies in high school help a student become “an informed citizen and culturally literate human being” in the same way receiving a college education will? If not, our democracy should think twice before embracing a rallying cry of “college for some.”

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  • cmcclain

    Our colleges already contain too many students who don’t want to be in college. Forget for the moment any considerations of ability; postsecondary students who don’t WANT to engage in academic study should not be there. Not only are they wasting their time and money, but they devalue the experience for other students.

    Right now, we agree that a college degree is necessary for many jobs. If we drastically increase the number of college graduates who are motivated merely by the job-carrot (and inevitably cater to their whims), we don’t actually generate a bigger and better workforce. Instead, we negatively change the nature of education so that it no longer provides adequate preparation. Subsequently, everyone will then “need” to have a Master’s degree or something else more advanced.

    Compulsory education should be limited to basic skills, AKA K-12, not necessarily including college prep. If a student does not enroll in college prep courses, and they later decide to attend college, they can start with community college. What people need is not college, exactly, but SOME broadening of experience (inward or outward) beyond their hometown experience. If they don’t want to immediately attend college, they should immediately pull up stakes and move to a totally different part of the country (or even another country, altogether) that provides new cultural experience.

  • 12039333

    “Will terminating studies in high school help a student become “an
    informed citizen and culturally literate human being” in the same way
    receiving a college education will?”

    No; but maybe beefing up the high school curriculum will.

  • http://twitter.com/Lori_Day Lori M. Day

    This debate, like the one about NCLB, always seems to leave out a critical consideration–the bell curve of human intelligence. The reason that we will never achieve 100% proficiency among students on standardized testing is not because teachers are not doing their jobs, but because IQ’s have a RANGE. 100 is mean, median and mode, meaning that 50% of human beings have IQ’s lower than 100. The numbers are not completely determinative of academic achievement. Kids with high IQ’s can underachieve, and kids with lower intellectual potential can be hard workers and outperform what testing predicts. However, at some point, there are kids with low enough IQ’s not to qualify for special needs services, but to simply be slow learners/weak students. They do not have learning disabilities. They simply can’t be expected to reach “proficiency” on standardized reading and math tests. Similarly, can they really excel in college? Will that path lead to the greatest income and security for them? Or, will learning a trade prepare them better for life, and improve the odds of them being gainfully employed? If they go to college, they get to compete with brighter students who are not getting jobs because there are not enough jobs! Why do I NEVER see this issue raised? Is it third-rail to discuss that not all children are bright? We do not live in Lake Wobegon. All the children are not above average. There are some who are below average. They may be wonderful human beings in all kinds of ways, but we are doing them a disservice by expecting academic achievement of which they are innately incapable. All children can learn, and should be helped to learn to their greatest potential, but why can no one admit that for some children, that may not include college-level education–and shouldn’t??

    Lori Day, Educational Psychologist and Consultant
    http://www.loridayconsulting.com

  • raza_khan

    Hi Richard and all

    The issue is not that we would like to have or want to have more of the younger generation educated at higher education level.  I am not sure what sane person out there would be against such a stand.  However, the issue that I see is that by focussing on how many (of course.. it is all about numbers) students are educated through higher education,   we have literally missed the bigger picture and a serious problem.   We really need to fix the K-12 system.    If you believe that there is nothing wrong with the K-12 system,  then I am all ears of you explaining as to why we have such a large population of “traditional” students taking remedial / transitional / developmental courses (whatever you may want to call them) at community colleges in this country? 

    We can not build pipeline when our foundations are leaking…. It simply will not work… Yes,  you can ignore it but at some point, the foundation gives in and the entire system crashes!

    best,

    Raza
    __________________________
    Raza Khan, Ph.D.
    Dr.Raza.Khan@gamil.com

  • peterwwood

    Dear Richard, I too, along with your fellow Innovations blogger Peter Wood, debated an aspect of this issue in a four-day online debate through Minnesota Public Radio. The assertion was: The drive to increase college enrollment threatens to lower academic standards. Kevin Carey of Education Sector took the opposing side. 

    You can find our debate here http://www.nas.org/polArticles.cfm?Doc_Id=2027 and the MPR forum (with comments by the moderator and readers) here http://insight.mprnews.org/discussion/254/will-expanding-college-admissions-downgrade-college-standards-the-debate-5-31-6-3/. 

    Some main points from our closing statement:
    1. Everyone should have access to college, but not everyone should go to college. 
    2. Most-educated is not the same as best-educated.
    3. If almost everyone goes to college, a degree won’t signify any particularly noteworthy achievement.
    4. A society that recognizes the laws of human nature – that each person is unique and that a one-size-fits-all approach won’t work – can then begin to help its rising generations to choose their paths. Such a recognition can also save higher education from trivializing itself into irrelevance.

    - Ashley Thorne, National Association of Scholars

  • betterschool

    A few additional thoughts.

    - Part of the disagreement arises from different conceptions of the notion “college.” In fact, “college” is a broad, almost “family resemblance” construct. Too many participants in these discussions reason from a vision that “college” is what they did 20 years ago, in all probability a four-year liberal arts or sciences program. Whereas “college” was once a small service designed for the rich, the smart, and a few professions, it is now a generalized part of our social fabric that serves the majority of the ability curve.

    - As Ms. Day points out (below), IQ varies (along with many other relevant abilities and dispositions) and these variations have some relevance for this discussion. This said, the case for considering IQ as a limiting factor is often overstated and/or rests on a narrow vision of “college.” For the middle two-thirds of the IQ distribution (between 85 and 115), factors other than native IQ — motivation, for example — will account for more variance in success. For many college programs, even old school traditional programs, the low and this high IQ student can both achieve mastery, the principle difference being time on learning task. Moreover, when teaching and evaluation exploits modern learning and measurement sciences, these differences in IQ, within limits, tend to disappear or play a lesser role with respect to learning outcomes.

    - This discussion, as with most on this topic, proceeds as if college students were 17-21 year old citizens in the making. Much is made of producing good citizens as a vague, largely unmeasurable, and seldom assessed learning outcome. In fact, close to half of today’s college students are working adults. They are already citizens of varying levels of engagement, just like the rest of us. Their decision to attend college was an adult choice and was made to gain specific proficiencies.

    - Discussions like this would be more productive if we could free ourselves of particular visions of “college” and focus, instead, on proficiencies and how to create the learning contexts in which they are developed with authenticity and efficiency.

    In my opinion, the growing diversity of our system of higher education is its greatest strength. Admittedly, that growing diversity presents personal challenges to those of us who would prefer that the notion of “college” remain faithful to our historical recollection, but I think it serves the changing needs of our society well. Diversity is adaptive. Adaptivity is survival. Central planning is the antithesis of these ideas. 

    If you agree that the growing diversity in higher education represents a net good, I suggest that you become vigilant and active against the federal government’s aggressive moves to regulate and standardize higher education to conform to its centrally planned “we know best” vision of tomorrow’s education needs.

    Consider this of the feds:

    - Last year, they gained control of the student loan business. 
    - This year, they are set to gain control of the definition of the credit hour. 
    - This year, they forced an unintelligent definition of gainful employment on for-profits; non-profits are next. 
    - They are halfway along in executing a plan to marginalize the accrediting bodies. 

    And our response has been . . .?

  • sand6432

    My son is just such a person as you describe in your first paragraph. He did not find his first two years at a large public university satisfying, so eventually dropped out and attended a vocational school that taught him the skills he needed to become an auto mechanic, a job he loves and is amply rewarded for doing. My daughter, by contrast, flourished at the same university, in its honors college, and graduated at the top of her class in liberal arts and now teaches match at a community college on an Indian reservation, which she also loves and finds spiritually, if not economically, rewarding. Their experiences suggest to me that the idea of “multiple pathways” makes a lot of sense.—Sandy Thatcher

  • sand6432

    And an additional issue is what Howard Gardner of Harvard’s Graduate School of Education identified as “multiple intelligences,” which suggest that “multiple pathways” are a sensible way to allow students with different abilities and interests to gain fulfillment and utilize their unique skills in different types of schooling leading to different types of jobs.—Sandy Thatcher

  • sand6432

    I entirely agree with this comment that our focus needs to be on improving the K-12 system so that we don’t need to use higher ed for remedial education.—Sandy Thatcher

  • sand6432

    “Fourth, college isn’t only about preparing students for the work force. It is
    also about preparing students to be intelligent and well-informed
    individuals who can make important decisions incumbent upon citizens in a
    democracy.” I fully agree, but unfortunately too many colleges are moving away from the ideal of a liberal education toward a more utilitarian vision that going to college is all about getting training for a specific job. If that is the direction we’re moving, I see no particular reason to steer all students to college because some will prefer to do jobs that do not now require a college degree but rather specialized technical training. Do we want a world full of MBAs with no one who knows how to fix a car?—Sandy Thatcher

  • mindnbodybuilding

    Lori Day writes “…Is it third-rail to discuss that not all children are bright? We do not live in Lake Wobegon. All the children are not above average. There are some who are below average. They may be wonderful human beings in all kinds of ways, but we are doing them a disservice by expecting academic achievement of which they are innately incapable. All children can learn, and should be helped to learn to their greatest potential, but why can no one admit that for some children, that may not include college-level education–and shouldn’t??”

    Thank you!! Perhaps it’s not very pc but college is not for everyone.

  • manhire
  • R117532

    This discussion reinforces a common external perception that academics and the higher education system is unimaginative and conservative. Most of the comments herein are based on a narrow received view of what “college” means as if that were all it could mean. Few seem to recognize how the meaning is evolving in response to changing participation rates, the nature of work, and the changing nature and goals of participants. Keep polishing that rear view mirror!

  • segads

    We have more students taking remedial courses because we have more students going to college — students who, in the past, would have moved directly into the workplace. 
    Many of the students now attending community college did not apply themselves to either the academic skills or the habits of mind required for academic success in college while in high school. And those in charge of high schools are unwilling to risk the negative responses of parents, community members and law makers to require such skills be learned. It would adversely affect graduation rates (one of the pieces of data by which they are judged).Do changes need to be made in the K-12 system? Sure. But don’t forget that the demands made upon that system are huge and varied. Among testing, differentiation, ILPs & IEPs, college prep and dealing with a uniquely entitled generation (and their parents), K-12 teachers have full plates. I’m sure that having all students “college ready” is a delightful and important goal — but if the students (and parents, and administrators, and board members and legislators…) don’t understand the importance of both academic and mental habits (studying, thinking critically, learning from failure, etc.), you will find more students entering college with a sense of entitlement to the degree without a willingness to work for it.
    Also — it really doesn’t help a high school teacher’s job when community colleges have no real entrance requirements beyond bearing human DNA. The students respond to such low expectations by simply not learning in high school.

  • Balsam

    Currently,  about half of students who attempt 4-year colleges end up graduating.  While I agree that we need to make sure that bright and motivated students whose poverty backgrounds or bad high schools depress their HS achievement levels are among that 50%, we clearly can’t expect to get every high school grad through a 4-year college program.  It’s a waste of resources to send students to college if they are only going to drop out or flunk out;  but there is also an opportunity cost for those students, not just in terms of the time spent but in terms of the fact that these are often students who have taken “college prep lite” instead of career-oriented classes that would have been in better alignment with their goals and interests.

  • R117532

    “It’s a waste of resources to send students to college if they are only going to drop out or flunk out;  but there is also an opportunity cost for those students . . .”
    I agree in general. More importantly, this is the kind of analysis that needs to prevail but is seldom heard. 

    I do, however, think that it is not all-or-none with respect to the “waste of time” issue. Our profession tends to think in terms of degrees but student capabilities and dispositions accrete more incrementally, sometimes in unpredictable jumps. Thus I feel that there are important respects in which some college is better than no college. You and I may consider a Psych BA student a failure if he earns 52 credits and then drops out to join his family business. One the other hand, he may appreciate and benefit from the exposure to any one of many opportunities associated with his college “failure.” In many cases, our preoccupation with degrees has led us into situations in which the degree is clearly an inadequate proxy measure of competence but we bury the problem inside the notion of a degree. I think we need to focus more on incremental gains in proficiency, competence, etc., leaving the degree as a capstone achievement but not the only substantive outcome of a college experience. 

  • quarkny

    More students in college will mean even less of an education for all college students.  The number of unprepared students will increase, and the problems already crippling higher education will worsen: diluted content, inflated grades, purged professors—the few who refuse to dilute or inflate. 

    The City University of New York, for example, has high enrollment because it has severely lowered academic standards to accommodate unprepared students. Indeed, all students who attend are passed, regardless of performance. 

    CUNY will probably remain the nation’s largest urban university–and never again be the first-rate academic institution it once was.  

    Frederick K. Lang
    Professor Emeritus of English
    Brooklyn College,
    City University of New York

  • badger74

    The presumption that all education ends when you stop going to a classroom is absurd. Today there are so many more sources of good information and “education” from the internet to books to the 500 channels on TV. Many people never stop learning. 

  • philmon cluebattingcage

    Great.  All we need is dedicated indoctrination by progressives for EVERYBODY even BEYOND 12th grade.

  • nancydee

    I teach lots of students who don’t look like they want to be in college, but I consider their alternatives and encourage them to stay, learn, do over, practice and perservere. The alternatives for so many are poverty, prison, or demeaning jobs and they know it. Many of these students have great verbal skills but lack the formal academic skills due to their high school experiences. They have great hurdles to jump before becoming successful, and can easily be demoralized by the system or casual remarks directed at them. They are our most vulnerable students and our most important ones in the long run. I feel like they need extra attention and encouragement, not an easy way out. We cannot give up on them when we consider the difference for them and their future families in the long run. 

  • director19

    Correct! It’s always about the money. None of the BCS folks give a crap about exams. What a bogus excuse. Also, while there needs to be more than 4 teams in the playoff, it’s unlikely to ever happen. My choice would be 16. But that’s just wishful thinking. My secret wish is to get rid of the crappy bowl games because that is what they are. Awful!