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Only 40 Percent of Pell Grant Recipients Get Bachelor’s Degrees

September 6, 2011, 12:42 pm

Let me start off with a caveat (no doubt, newspaper and magazine editors would tell you, a horrible way to start a blog post): The headline on this epistle is “informed speculation” on my part.

Nevertheless, based on statistical examination of the Pell Grant/graduation rate relationship for about 750 colleges and universities, aided by Chris Denhart and Jonathan Robe, I would “guesstimate” that roughly 40 percent of full-time, first-year students receiving Pell Grants graduate within six years (from four-year institutions). This is significantly lower than the graduation rate of non-Pell recipients, which appears to be closer to 60 to 65 percent.

Looking at the four-year graduation rate, regression analysis (with several other variables introduced for control purposes) suggests that for every 1 percent of a student body receiving Pells, the graduation rate falls by roughly one-quarter of a percentage point. Suppose Yuppie School A has 10 percent Pell recipients, while Urban Gritty University B has 50 percent. Our statistical analysis predicts that the graduation rate will be 10 percentage points higher at Yuppie University, even after controlling for such oft-cited other factors as admissions selectivity, the incidence of majors in the STEM disciplines, the private/public status of the school, or race.

Now these estimates may be off; the sample is “only” about 750 schools (albeit virtually all of the well known and large schools are included), there may be some “omitted error bias” in the statistical model (although the model itself has very high overall explanatory power), etc. There is no substitute for direct evidence based on the actual experience of individual students. But, that data is not readily available, so we try to estimate what it would show.

To be sure, there was some detailed analysis of the 1994 cohort of entering freshman. My sidekick Jonathan Robe unearthed some of this data as reported by data gatherer extraordinaire Tom Mortenson (of postsecondary.org). Mortenson’s data show considerably higher Pell six-year graduation rates, around 50 percent for Pell recipients. However, there are two problems with this data. First, it is quite old, dealing with kids entering college 17 years ago. Second, the aggregate graduation rates reported are somewhat higher than are generally reported elsewhere.

Let’s for the sake of argument assume the six-year graduation rate for Pell recipients is, in fact, 40 percent. There are two scandals here. The first is that we have been spending of late well over $40-billion annually on a program with a huge failure rate—60 percent of four-year college participants never graduate—or at least within six years.  For every two successes, there are three failures. To be sure, there may be some gains to students who flunk out of college in mid-course, but these persons are also viewed by some as failures, as mere dropouts that lack the Right Stuff to graduate. So the Pell program appears to be, at the very minimum, very inefficient in achieving its original goals of promoting equality of opportunity in America (and even if I am wrong, and the true Pell graduation rate is 50 percent, we still have something of a scandal—for every graduation success, there is a failure).

The second scandal is that the government does not systematically gather or publish the data (at least in any of the documents my colleagues and I read, and we look at a lot of data) on this very important statistic. Within one minute of grabbing a book off my shelf, I learned that in 1991, there were 3,308,000 Americans with incomes between $15,000 and $20,000 a year participating in adult-education programs. Additionally, it was quite easy to find out that in 1970-71 some 456 people received master’s degrees in microbiology. But vital information on how huge hunks of federal funds are spent is not made publicly available, as Arne Duncan himself acknowledged earlier this year. To be sure, the 2010 Digest of Education Statistics, (the Ed Department’s major statistical compendium), has 22 tables on collegiate staffing, but only has one inadequate table relating to any kind of graduation rates. This gives you some idea where our Department of Education’s priorities are, and is a travesty packaged within a scandal wrapped with indifference and hypocrisy.

Obviously, the Administration is stonewalling on providing this data. But where is Congress? Where is the House Education Committee’s John Kline or Virginia Foxx? One senator recently asked me for an area where the Congressional Research Service and/or Government Accountability Office might provide the nation a study that would  break through some of the layer of secrecy permeating higher education. This is what I think should be considered. We should not have to rely on a lonely academic residing near the armpit of Appalachia to speculate on something so important that we spend $300-billion or so on it every decade.

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  • drj50

    “Obviously, the Administration is stonewalling on providing this data.” Which administration? The Pell Grant program has been going on for decades, so any “stonewalling” would be attributable to both Democratic (Clinton, Obama) and Republican (Reagan, Bush, Bush) administrations. That suggests more a lack of interest or competence over many years rather than stonewalling. (Why is the first assumption always that people are evil and not, for example, simply careless?)

  • 11191947

    “The second scandal is that the government does not systematically gather or publish the data (at least in any of the documents my colleagues and I read, and we look at a lot of data) on this very important statistic. ”

    Well, the government gave it the old college try a few years back, in the form of asking for unit record data on student matriculation and progress, and met with strong resistance. “Systematically gathering data” isn’t as straightforward as it sounds when it requires the cooperation of thousands of institutions with varying degrees of sophistication regarding their own data. For example, to do my own studies of the influence of Pell grants on completion, I have to join a dump from another data system with my longitudinal files.

    Again, please watch where you place the blame. Why not use the NCES own longitudinal sample research studies?

  • mkant69

     This may have more to do with Pell Grant recipient status being a proxy for low-income students than anything else. It may also be further indication that the maximum Pell Grant is too low to make much of a difference for students in Bachelor’s degree programs.

    Using the 2009 follow-up to the 2003-04 Beginning Postsecondary Students Longitudinal Study (BPS:04/09), I compared 6-year Bachelor’s degree attainment rates for students who were enrolled in a Bachelor’s degree program at a 4-year institution in 2003-04. Students who ever received a Pell Grant graduated at a rate of 52.9%, compared with 69.7% for students who never received a Pell Grant. These national statistics are a bit higher than your figures, but still show a difference between Pell Grant recipients and non-recipients.

    However, that difference appears to be due to the non-recipients including wealthier students. If we restrict the data to students whose family AGI was $50,000 or less in 2003-04, the 6-year graduation rate for Pell Grant recipients in Bachelor’s degree programs was 51.3%, compared with 52.9% for non-recipients. That difference is within the margin for error. But this data does suggest that the Pell Grant does not convey an advantage in Bachelor’s degree attainment.

    But the lack of advantage may be due to the higher cost of Bachelor’s degree programs, even at in-state public colleges. The Pell Grant represents a smaller percentage of tuition at 4-year colleges than at 2-year colleges.

    So let’s compare 6-year Associate’s degree attainment rates for students who were enrolled in an Associate’s degree program at a 2-year institution in 2003-04, further limiting the data to students whose family AGI was $50,000 or less in 2003-04. Students who ever received a Pell Grant graduated with an Associate’s degree at a rate of 18.7%, compared with 12.7% for non-recipients. Here the Pell Grant does appear to provide a significant graduation advantage, increasing the graduation rate by about half. Low-income students in Associate’s degree programs who don’t receive a Pell Grant are only two-thirds as likely to graduate.

  • 11223140

    This article should have been entitled something like “News flash — poor kids achieve higher education at greatly reduced rates than do richer kids.”

    Although there are exceptions that prove the rule, Pell recipients have the misfortune of being born to low income and low asset families.  Money for college is just one of a number of typical hurdles that these young people need to overcome to achieve a 4 year college degree, within any timeframe.  The relative purchasing power of the Pell Grant, though viewed by Richard Vedder as a large and impressive gross federal budget allocation, has greatly eroded over at least the last 20 years.  Students with a maximum Pell Grant award, even at moderately priced 4 year institutions, rarely have their calculated financial need met in their financial aid award packages — meaning that they in fact do not have enough money to pay basic college expenses through the federal and institutional aid programs.  Their parents are less likely to qualify for Federal PLUS Loans, or as cosigners for private student loans.  Of course, as a group of college applicants, they are also much less likely to have attended quality middle and high schools, been exposed to the performing arts via parent paid lessons, been selected to receive community-based private scholarship awards, have received thorough college admission and application guidance, and in general exhibit far fewer of the other markers typically associated with affluence, relative to students born to families with higher income and higher assets.

    If one out of two Pell recipients in fact graduates with a 4 year degree within 6 years, that is a higher percentage than zero out of two, by a considerable margin. It is naive to assume that money pumped into one eroded aid program — the Federal Pell Grant — was or will ever be enough of a leveling device to make up the difference in birthright that is in play here relative to graduation rates.

    jimeddy

  • theatheist

    “It may also be further indication that the maximum Pell Grant is too low
    to make much of a difference for students in Bachelor’s degree
    programs.”

    A hypothesis worth investigating.

  • lpeterss

    Wait a minute.  I’m no scholar of higher ed history or policy, but even a cursory analysis of your claims raises red flags:  1) is the purpose of Pell to increase graduation rates among low-income students?  I don’t think so – and it would be a foolish program to try to do so on the basis of money alone.  So why evaluate it by that measure?  2) What makes you assume that all/a significant percentage of Pell students who don’t complete have “flunked out”?  Certainly on my campus, financial pressures are an important factor in attrition.  But financial pressures and being on academic probation are not equivalent categories.  3) Can you cite any studies that show that completing one or two years of solid post-secondary education is a worthless enterprise?  At the very least, might not the experience help attriters when their own children are of college age?

    As someone whose undergraduate education was financed almost entirely by the predecessor of the Pell, the BEOG, my concern is that the Pell now provides only a minor portion of the costs of attending a four-year institution.  BEOG stood for “Basic Educational Opportunity Grant.”  Pell, at its current (and decreasing) level of funding, just encourages students to take out massive loans.

  • frankschmidt

    What would be the college graduation rate of low-income students in the absence of the Pell grant program? Opportunity cost, Richard, opportunity cost.

  • drj50

    Lower-income students (such as Pell recipients) typically are “at-risk” for more reasons than economics. They often come from poorer-quality schools, from families with little experience of (and sometimes little interest in) higher education, identify with few peers who value education, and do not assimilate comfortably with the predominately middle-class students at their colleges. I am inclined to agree that Pell grants are too low, but a difference in graduation rates does not by itself support that conclusion that outcomes would be very different if we throw more money at it.

  • Remembering_Abe

    While agreeing with frankschmidt, i think you miss the bigger “scandal”….”the graduation rate of non-Pell recipients, which appears to be closer to 60 to 65 percent”.  This is a 35-40% failure rate, for which 70-80% are receiving $5,000 – 10,000 a year in a state-provided “grant”. 

  • butteredtoastcat

    “The headline on this epistle is “informed speculation” on my part.”

    Why should anyone read it then?

    Get some real figures and then come back and spew.

  • 11167997

    Richard, go back to school!  mKant69 shows you what can be done with existing longitudinal data that and your side-kicks did not bother to recognize. NCES puts this stuff out there with considerable skill and high statistical standards, and any analyst with an IQ above room temperature knows where to look and how to deal with it.  Your crew obviously doesn’t make the grade.  Now, having said that, here’s what’s missing even from mKant69: (1) a division of the student universe by age at the point of higher education entry (hypothesis: older beginning students will show distinctively different histories; and the Beginning Postsecondary Students longitudinal studies allow for the age distinction to be brought into play); (2) differentiation of the student universe by what one might call the intensity/frequency of Pell grant receipt, i.e. some students get Pells for every term in which they are enrolled, some get Pells off-and-on, and some get a Pell only once.  Any half-intelligent approach to the relationship of different forms of financial aid to persistence and completion would construct a variable accounting for such variations (and you can do it with BPS); and (3) controls by secondary school academic background, one area in which BPS is not as strong as the NCES grade-cohort longitudinal studies (which include high school and college transcripts), but these, in turn, have not been as strong as BPS on financial aid data (though this may change when the ELS02 study conducts its final survey in 2012).  The latter is a genuine dilemma of the data.  But all of this has to be put on the table, and certainly would cut down on spurious gotcha’ guessing.

  • 11127960

    I am glad you crafted this response. My first reaction to Mr. Vedder’s analysis was that he is not comparing apples to apples and did not try to explain that the Pell Grant recipients come from a certain slice of all students attending College and their performance is best compared to others of that slice – whatever it may be. Since Pell is specifically designed for low income students that seems like a reasonable place to start. Low income student do not all fail to complete for the same reason but they do have a different set of reasons than, at the other extreme, high income students. The analysis may lead to a similar conclusion but I doubt it and your work indicates that it will not.

  • 11159786

    This article addresses an extremely important issue….but where are the data sources of this analysis? Vedder claims that the study has controlled for a number of variables, but such analyses require scrutiny in order to become credible. Indeed, mkant69 (below) has data that appears to demolish Vedder’s point completely! Teaching at a public university makes me acutely aware of the role of family income and the need in many cases for students to work nearly full-time while trying to get a degree. Such folks experience stresses that upper middle class students lack…..so I find mkant69 to be more credible than Mr. Vedder. Let’s see the data and confront the problem head-on.

  • uofmofas

    Why is it that a student that successfully completes coursework but does not complete a degree is considered/labeled a “failure?” The assumption seems to be that there is nothing to be gained by the student or society in what is being labeled here a failed attempt. Is it true that 60 credits of college work contribute absolutely nothing to the life of the student or to the society in which he/she lives because the next 60 credits are missing? Can it be inferred from this logic that an associate’s degree has no real value? When did education become an all or none proposition?

  • bfrank1

    All I can say is that these posts certainly SMELL like they emerge from “near the armpit of Appalachia” – your words. To paraphrase, ‘Have you no shame, sir? ‘

  • michjwil

    Very interesting.  I received pell grants when I was in school.  I would say either you are serious about school or you are not.  Receiving a pell grant would mean a certain percent of students would be able to graduate that other wise would not. Due to lack of funds if there was no pell grant. I found this site that talkes about other opportunites http://www.crimescenetechnicianreview.com/crime-scene-technician/ for careers.This is not just for TV.

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  • dmbyrnes

    Wouldn’t life be grand if this level of detail (minus the spleen) was applied to scrutinizing the outcomes of the ANNUAL expenditures of the U.S. Department of Defense (est $691 billion)? To emphasize: that’s PER YEAR. This guy resents $300 billion spent OVER TEN YEARS. Who is “we”? what is this “veil of secrecy”? wow. who is this guy??

  • realtyannie

    Adjunct pay is insanely low, which is why I don’t do it.

    $1500 for a 3-hour class. Times 13 classes in a year (5+5+3 in summer, if you can get a summer gig). $19,500 gross for a year of full time employment, with no benefits, then take out social security, and put something into your Roth IRA, and buy yourself some private health insurance, HA!

    You can work as a restaurant server or bartender and do as well or better.  In fact, you’ll probably need to spend your off hours doing just that. 
     
    If you could teach double that load, which no human could possibly do, you would still have no benefits, you would work 90+ hours a week, pay $10k a year for crummy health insurance, and never be able to buy a home of your own. And you wouldn’t have time to pick up the desperately needed bartending hours.

  • realtyannie

    Adjunct pay is insanely low, which is why I don’t do it.

    $1500 for a 3-hour class. Times 13 classes in a year (5+5+3 in summer, if you can get a summer gig). $19,500 gross for a year of full time employment, with no benefits, then take out social security, and put something into your Roth IRA, and buy yourself some private health insurance, HA!

    You can work as a restaurant server or bartender and do as well or better.  In fact, you’ll probably need to spend your off hours doing just that. 
     
    If you could teach double that load, which no human could possibly do, you would still have no benefits, you would work 90+ hours a week, pay $10k a year for crummy health insurance, and never be able to buy a home of your own. And you wouldn’t have time to pick up the desperately needed bartending hours.

  • drzee

    Obviously, all the previous comments raise very vital, urgent reforms that MUST happen in the near future. We all have seen this coming for decades now, this corporatizing of the academy.

    I would like to contribute this point to the discussion. I have been adjuncting for the pass two years now, averaging about 12 course for the year (5 for both the  Fall and Spring term and 2 over the Summer.) This teaching load is in addition to hours at the writing centers. I have maintained high student evaluations. Beyond this, I have kept up my professional development, having published a book this past Fall with the college’s name on it. However, I have been told that the department generally does not fill full-time position with adjunct faculty members. I guess what I would like to see is departments start to promote from within. That is, there a number of a adjunct faculty who are incredibly qualified and would love the opportunity to fill a full-time position in departments. So I would like there to be a regulated path open for adjunct faculty who merit it to become full-time instructors in their departments. It is just such a slap in the face to adjuncts when their departments seek out external job candidates. 

  • drzee

    Obviously, all the previous comments raise very vital, urgent reforms that MUST happen in the near future. We all have seen this coming for decades now, this corporatizing of the academy.

    I would like to contribute this point to the discussion. I have been adjuncting for the pass two years now, averaging about 12 course for the year (5 for both the  Fall and Spring term and 2 over the Summer.) This teaching load is in addition to hours at the writing centers. I have maintained high student evaluations. Beyond this, I have kept up my professional development, having published a book this past Fall with the college’s name on it. However, I have been told that the department generally does not fill full-time position with adjunct faculty members. I guess what I would like to see is departments start to promote from within. That is, there a number of a adjunct faculty who are incredibly qualified and would love the opportunity to fill a full-time position in departments. So I would like there to be a regulated path open for adjunct faculty who merit it to become full-time instructors in their departments. It is just such a slap in the face to adjuncts when their departments seek out external job candidates. 

  • drzee

    Obviously, all the previous comments raise very vital, urgent reforms that MUST happen in the near future. We all have seen this coming for decades now, this corporatizing of the academy.
     
    I would like to contribute this point to the discussion. I have been adjuncting for the pass two years now, averaging about 12 course for the year (5 for both the  Fall and Spring term and 2 over the Summer.) This teaching load is in addition to hours at the writing centers. I have maintained high student evaluations. Beyond this, I have kept up my professional development, having published a book this past Fall with the college’s name on it. However, I have been told that the department generally does not fill full-time position with adjunct faculty members. I guess what I would like to see is departments start to promote from within. That is, there a number of a adjunct faculty who are incredibly qualified and would love the opportunity to fill a full-time position in departments. So I would like there to be a regulated path open for adjunct faculty who merit it to become full-time instructors in their departments. It is just such a slap in the face to adjuncts when their departments seek out external job candidates. 

  • drzee

    Obviously, all the previous comments raise very vital, urgent reforms that MUST happen in the near future. We all have seen this coming for decades now, this corporatizing of the academy.
     
    I would like to contribute this point to the discussion. I have been adjuncting for the pass two years now, averaging about 12 course for the year (5 for both the  Fall and Spring term and 2 over the Summer.) This teaching load is in addition to hours at the writing centers. I have maintained high student evaluations. Beyond this, I have kept up my professional development, having published a book this past Fall with the college’s name on it. However, I have been told that the department generally does not fill full-time position with adjunct faculty members. I guess what I would like to see is departments start to promote from within. That is, there a number of a adjunct faculty who are incredibly qualified and would love the opportunity to fill a full-time position in departments. So I would like there to be a regulated path open for adjunct faculty who merit it to become full-time instructors in their departments. It is just such a slap in the face to adjuncts when their departments seek out external job candidates. 

  • henry_adams

    I agree.  The best advice for an individual teaching part-time: quit and do something else.  The best advice for part-timers as a national group: Walk out together, create a media event, and maybe you can shame the people with power and money into improving things for you.

    Henry Adams

  • henry_adams

    I agree.  The best advice for an individual teaching part-time: quit and do something else.  The best advice for part-timers as a national group: Walk out together, create a media event, and maybe you can shame the people with power and money into improving things for you.

    Henry Adams

  • mschedlb

    I am continually surprised that adjuncts complain that they are earning below the poverty level and that they can make so much more everywhere else. Either stop whining or get a different job; no one is forcing you to teach 18 classes per year at $1,500 per class! Now, if you really like the work and you do it solely because you enjoy it, then that’s great — as long as you can pay your bills in some other way (trust fund, real job, spouse is working, etc.). 

    I have worked as an adjunct at many Universities (public and private) and when the adjunct salary offers went to a point where they weren’t competitive, I left — I was generally considered an excellent instructor and so the students and the institution lost out on my expertise. 

    As long as there are adjuncts out there willing to work for such pay, Universities have — rightfully, I might add! — no incentive to increase the salary. Let the market work, folks…

    And, who cares what the “tenured faculty” think of adjuncts — do your job: teach well — that’s what adjunct are — teaching resources. You are not paid to do research or publish — nor measured on that. If you hold out for a tenure track position, then do that but know what you are getting into.

    Bottom line: figure out what you are worth (in the market place, not what you feel is a good amount) and then make employment decisions accordingly. And, quit whining!

  • mschedlb

  • mschedlb

    Then adjuncts need to stop teaching if they are losing money — you are not expected to pay for a job.

  • mschedlb

    This might sound cruel: but are you insane? 4 classes per semester year-round is a ton or work and you do that for $18,900 — are you nuts? Is this the only thing you can do? With a PhD in Psychology there must be other venues of employment. Now, if there are not and $18,900 is the max you could earn, then you are getting paid the right amount of money and you should be grateful that the University pays you that well.

  • mschedlb

    Finally, an answer that make sense. If the pay is too low and you can use your time to do other work at higher pay, then don’t teach as an adjunct. You don’t need to shame anyone in paying you more or even walk out as a group. If adjuncts stop working for such wages then Universities will have to pay more to “lure them away” from other work. It’s as simple as that.

    That is the major reason why faculty in business schools teaching accounting, law, marketing, information systems, operations management, quantitative analysis, etc. get paid quite well (even adjuncts) — Universities have to pay it to attract the talent.

  • mschedlb

    As long as Universities can attract talent on their terms, they will continue to do that. Stop working at the Department if you don’t like where your career is going — trust me, they’ll make adjustments if they really need you and you provide something of value.

  • mschedlb

    If you are “grossly underpaid” that means that someone with your qualifications can get another job at much higher pay. If you can’t, then you are not underpaid. So, I suggest that if you would like to get paid better, that you quit and take another job. Doing so might also force your University to pay you better if they’d like to keep your expertise.

  • adjunctivitis

    I agree!  The future of America should be provided with only the best poverty-wage-employees money can buy! Oh, and $2million artificial turf fields.

  • drzee

    I have a question: are you sincerely contributing to this discussion or are you simply trolling this thread? From your comments on this discussion, I honestly think that you are clueless to the actual adjunct working conditions. Please lets not speak from a place of ignorance when actual academic laborers are trying to improve our plight. Please why don’t you spew your uninformed opinions elsewhere.

  • drzee

    Oh, I understand now: you are a coward! Rather than trying to improve conditions for yourself and future academics, you simply left. Go hide and leave the work of reforming the academy to those who decided to care.

  • drzee

    “Bottom line: figure out what you are worth (in the market place, not what you feel is a good amount) and then make employment decisions accordingly. And, quit whining!”

    I understand that you are a “business analyst,” an amorphic, fabricated title if I ever heard one, but are you not aware of how unions actually begin? Allow me to give you a bit of a lesson: an exploited labor force gets together to express shared grievances about their working conditions in order to make a change.

  • alicekolakowska

    Dear Eliana,

    The slavery-like employment that is associated with adjunct teaching positions at US universities is a serious issue that touches upon violation of human rights and the rights stated in the Constitution. ‘Improving’ the conditions of adjunct employment by ‘patching’ the holes in the current system is not a solution that would improve university education system in a long run. Current situation calls for drastic changes.

    Adjunct teaching position as a teaching contract by course should be eliminated. All university teaching positions should be staffed by individuals who hold doctoral degrees or equivalent. These positions should be by annual contracts and carry a job title of either an assistant or an associate professor, depending on past contributions to university system, education, and scholarship.

    The compensation should be at an appropriate level, consistent with the established compensation level in the state system. These contracts should include a uniform benefit package, i.e., health insurance plan and retirement contribution, at minimum.

    Faculty in these positions should be expected to carry both teaching and scholarship duties, and contribute to the institution. They should have an opportunity to apply for extramural grants and to be nominated for teaching and other awards. They should have an opportunity to mentor undergraduate research or other creative projects.

    This latter condition is very important because it would allow a contract professor to build his resume, gradually becoming more competitive in securing a tenure-track professorship either at his current institution or somewhere else. In other words, these equal-opportunity conditions would stimulate professional growth of the individual as well as positive changes towards higher standards within departments.

    In this proposed arrangement, holding a limited-term contract could be a natural progression step in academic career. Such an arrangement would be also beneficial for the system by creating a healthy competition, increasing motivation, restoring respect for academic faculty, eliminating unnecessary tensions, and resulting in an overall greater satisfaction from work in academia. Tenured and tenure-track faculty ought to be supportive for such changes that ultimately would elevate their status.

    In the current situation, adjunct teaching position is a blind alley. It cannot get lower than that when a person with an advanced graduate degree, perhaps your former colleague at graduate school, earns an equivalent of a custodian living for a high-responsibility job that requires advanced knowledge and skills. What does it say about us? Who will respect us if we do not respect each other…

    Have a good and productive trip to Washington, and tell us soon all about it.

  • unlikely_academic

    I think this is fantastic. I just started on the job market but I’m clear about my goals and I won’t work for less than tenure-track for more than 2 years. Then I’m moving on. Academia is a noble job, primarily for those of us who are not represented in the faculty ranks, but my family comes first. I think the committee needs to address healthcare and living wages. If you go through the excruciating work of completing a PhD, you should be paid fairly for it, and you shouldn’t have to slave for 2-3 more years in a Post-doc to get that. It is a commonly known fact now that PhD programs are admitting more grad students than there are jobs becoming available for those people. mschedlb, you sound like a real pendejo(a) but you are right on one thing–if we’re not treated fairly we should leave (if we can). Not everyone has the conditions, luxury, or safety-net to just leave a salary–even if it is low.

  • yellow1

    I’ve heard of this one before too. I even heard a “if you want to use your own book, you must have other faculty in your discipline agree to use it as well or put it on an approved/short list of texts” one. GOOD example.

  • DeanDad

    The evil twin of the phantom policy is the phantom past practice.  ”You can’t change that; it’s always been done that way.”  As it happens, “always” is often a function of a very selective memory.

  • lydiatimmins

    In my comm department we have TV cameras that students use to do their projects. When I arrived I was told that if students cause damage to the equipment, they have to pay for it. Last fall, a puppy ate an expensive piece–when we tried to find the paperwork to charge the student…no such policy actually existed! It was in our syllabi, but apparently you can’t just charge students for damage. Working on CREATING that policy now!

  • drlandsnark

     Maybe you’re actually the same person.  I suddenly realize I’ve never seen you in the same room together….hey!  Rob, take off your glasses–YOU’RE SUPERMAN!

  • drlandsnark

     I’m always frustrated by this idea.  If you write a book and then *don’t* assign it to your students, you either (a) don’t think your book is as good as materials already available in the marketplace (in which case why write it?) or (b) are assigning an inferior book because of some perceived bias.  If people knew how little the authors of most textbooks make, they wouldn’t assume they were doing it for the money…

  • squacky

    Great article! 

    From my experience, I think such policies, particularly those that intersect with campus systems like room scheduling, reimbursement procedures, and the like, are invented as much by mid-level managers as they are by executive administrators. The latter come and go, but it’s the former who are more likely to be at an institution for the run of a career…and make up (well-intentioned) rules along the way. 

  • robjenkins

    Great point, squacky.

  • vkw10

    I once served on an taskforce charged with identifying and implementing innovative practices.Our first activity was drafting a “pilot project” policy that allowed and encouraged department chairs to grant exemptions to policies  for up to one year unless the policy had an explicit “no waiver without approval of” clause. As I recall, the pilot project application had about six questions. Our proposed policy was never approved, but the debate it generated served to highlight problems with policies and  phantom policies.Some onerous policies were revised and quite a few phantom policies were debunked. Faculty and department chairs became much more insistent on getting a policy number when someone said that “the policy required”.

  • Socratease2

    I guess it is a fact of life that people will tune out, no matter what the interest level in subject area is, if programming has a “community access” production value. But it is sad that production values and ratings trump everything else in this case. But the market decides even if that means shrinking the marketplace of ideas, academic TV is no less immune apparently.

  • old nassau’67

    I have a suggestion: Why not ask the BigTen Athletic Departments to contribute a few million so that the Network can highlight “scholarly work” with “higher quality” (whatever that means) . As the chart below shows, the conferences’ athletic departments combined for about $100 million in profits.

    School                   Total Athletic Department      
                                Revenue           Expenses                Income
    Illinois              57,539,367.00     55,723,771.00          1,815,596.00
    Indiana             70,172,641.00     64,878,825.00          5,293,816.00
    Iowa                 92,903,555.00     87,607,487.00          5,296,068.00
    Michigan           122,486,490.00     95,836,991.00      26,649,499.00
    Michigan State     80,963,182.00     67,450,913.00     13,512,269.00
    Minnesota         78,924,683.00     78,924,683.00              0.00
    Nebraska          83,679,756.00     78,509,148.00           5,170,608.00
    Northwestern     56,214,293.00     56,214,293.00              0.00
    Ohio State     131,815,819.00     113,184,855.00         18,630,964.00
    Penn State     116,118,026.00     84,498,339.00           31,619,687.00
    Purdue             66,066,303.00     59,293,193.00           6,773,110.00
    Wisconsin     93,594,766.00        92,939,345.00            655,421.00
    (http://businessofcollegesports.com/2012/03/19/most-profitable-athletic-departments-big-ten/)

  • awegweiser

    Of course they backed off. It is football, isn’t – the most important aspect of the life of many Americans. At lest they don’t riot (as often) as Euro football fanatics.

  • badger74

    Most of the schools DO share in the BTN income. At Wisconsin the school gets about half and the AD the other half. Thus millions each year go to the academic side. Same for profits from school logo athletic wear items.
    I watched many of the shows. Most were just typical PR pieces highlighting accomplishments around campus. Fine enough but not great TV for most.

  • pianiste

    Tail wagging dog department:

    “When the Big Ten Network was started five years ago, it offered each member university the chance to produce up to 60 hours a year of academic programming.”

    Well, isn’t that nice? The universities, which nominally control the athletic departments, are “offered the chance” by a sports network run by and for athletic departments to produce a token amount of academic programming (academics being, in the view of athletic departments, a token aspect of universities).

    And at Wisconsin, the athletic department takes a 50 percent cut of the revenue. Go Crotchgrabbers!