Upset over delays in setting up permanent campuses for new, federally backed Indian Institutes of Technology, India’s minister in charge of higher education has expressed his displeasure to the state governments handling the development projects and has told them to immediately sort out the problems, India Today reports. Five of eight new elite engineering schools set up since 2008 are functioning out of ill-equipped temporary campuses or on the campuses of the older existing schools that are mentoring the new ones. “Having an Indian Institute of Technology is a matter of prestige for any state. … So it is appalling that the states failed to provide land despite assurances that they would do so,” said the minister, Kapil Sibal. Academics have criticized the government for hastily setting up the new schools without campuses or faculties, especially while the older elite schools have faculty shortages.
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24 Responses to India’s Education Minister Raps States Over Slow Pace on New Engineering Schools
22266017 - March 17, 2011 at 9:18 am
Maybe it’s just my previous experience in Career Services coming through, but this all seems like it should be common sense. I don’t want to believe that educators educators would actually ask such questions or have that much trouble formulating a better question.
sanjoaquin - March 17, 2011 at 9:37 am
I am sorry for you, then, because you would be utterly horrified.
22266017 - March 17, 2011 at 11:41 am
I’m not denying it. I’m just lamenting it… especially since students may learn these same habits from such educators.
stuckatmoou - March 17, 2011 at 4:40 pm
There is such a thing as a stupid reason for a stupid question, however. I was on an academic search where a senior colleague considered that a candidate who was not married with children would be weaker than one who was. He seems to think that adults aren’t adults unless they are married parents. So, I later found out that he asked all the candidates about their personal lives on their campus visits . .
utchron9 - March 17, 2011 at 5:34 pm
Wow. Now I’m really wondering why us graduate students were asked by the faculty hiring committe to “Find out fun things about the candidates, e.g., do they have kids, are they married, do they have special needs, family in the area, what church do they go to, etc.”
Although, come to think about it, now I’m not so surprised how time-after-time women and minorities were never offered a job.
sunshinesmama - March 17, 2011 at 11:59 pm
So…on the flipside, when IS the appropriate time to tell an employer you have a(n invisible) disability? My daughter has Asperger’s. She could be *very* successful at some jobs, but there are a few adaptations she needs (straight speaking – no hints or assumptions, clear directions, or write them down, etc). And how do you tell an employer you need to bring your service dog to work?
vaillancourt_az - March 18, 2011 at 12:18 pm
In response to sunshinemama, employers aren’t permitted to ask candidates about disabilities prior to offering employment, so I would strongly urge your daughter not to reveal her disabilities until after she has a position in hand. There are a number of people who benefit from straight talk and clear instructions, so I don’t know that she even needs to reveal that she has Asperger’s. I have a colleague who takes copious notes in meetings and asks for me to put requests in writing because “he remembers better that way.” We all want him to be successful, so we just go with it and don’t get into the potential reasons for his requests.
As a for a service dog, employers really aren’t in a position to decline legitimate needs like this. Again, I wouldn’t mention this until AFTER a job has been offered and perhaps even started. If the service dog is needed during the interview process, it is wise to notifify the search committee, especially if a member will be picking up the candidate and the dog from the airport.
Brian Abel Ragen - May 25, 2011 at 3:56 pm
Many good points here. I would add three observations of my own:
First, the private office is the worst possible place to meet students individually. The risk of accusations of impropriety is much higher when there is no one else present. A coffee shop or a common area is much safer. (I admit that I am putting little stock is concerns about student privacy: the details of students’ private lives are not my business and we can whisper when we talk about grades.)
Second, faculty nap rooms _are_ needed, especially in situations where the day may begin with a 9:00 AM class and end with a 7:00 PM seminar. I also want a place to change my shirt or socks now and then. Let me have a coat hook, a reading light, and a Barcalounger.
Third, faculty common rooms are very important. There needs to be some place where we actually see our colleagues in the flesh between meetings, and other venues won’t do: The hall is too noisy. The bathroom cuts the department in two. The office makes life hard for the secretaries. Let’s have a room where faculty can store a few books, complain about students, and share a cup of coffee. And let the university spring for the coffee: since they’re cutting my pension, it’s the least they can do.
ardub44 - May 25, 2011 at 4:03 pm
Though obviously well-intentioned, this entry demonstrates an unwitting capitulation to the aggressive faculty disempowerment pursued by a growing number of institutions. Perhaps it’s merely an unintended co-optation, which is hard for all of us to avoid. My point is that space, meaning presence, remains extremely important not merely to faculty but to their students, which is more important, after all. Yes, collaboration is growing in both importance and acceptance, thankfully, but the sense of a faculty member as just that, a member, is diminished gravely by his or her lack of value to the institution, as demonstrated by the institution’s investment in that person. Students clearly understand hierarchy, and it affects their comprehension of the faculty member, her course, and ultimately the institution itself. That last may be the most significant and overlooked aspect; administrations aren’t notable for their long view. In their personal discussions, students evaluate faculty by their perceived permanence or value, as demonstrated by whether they have an office or are working out of their zip drive or briefcase, not to mention whether their sole presence exists in the cloud. I’ve had this evaluation shared by students both unintentionally and intentionally, as in offhand comments about other faculty. Digital access notwithstanding, students still seem to place some value on the notion that there’s a place where the they can go to find and address us in real time, even if only to leave a hardcopy note. If you, as faculty, aren’t present in some fairly permanent, visible sense, the administration reasons that your impact, your concerns, your voice in any sense, is as far off campus and outside the margins of the institution as that crowded study, coffee shop, or whatever found space defines your presence. And, irrespective of the presence, undeniable benefit, and impact of the digital world, we still are defined by our physical presence. Or absence.
landrumkelly - May 25, 2011 at 4:13 pm
“I mean that the idea of an individualized cloistered space is integral
to what is considered to be academic knowledge production.”
You bet! There is nothing like a quiet study for serious thought–and there is still nothing like serious thought if one is going to be really good in the classroom. If you cannot see that, then no one will ever be able to show it to you.
Landrum Kelly, Jr.
http://www.philosophicalquestions.org
azadpoor - May 25, 2011 at 4:14 pm
I disagree with the author about the place of actual office. I almost always prefer to work in my office. I also meet my students there and hold small meetings with other colleagues. During the day, I often have multiple interactions with my graduate students. It is therefore impossible to work in any other place than in my office. I guess the author’s suggestion only applies to professors in humanities and alike and definitely not to science professors.
hypatia - May 25, 2011 at 4:37 pm
I think this is a bit classist. It was a long long time before I was able to have a proper study space at home, and an “allowance” would not have helped. The house I lived in for the first eighteen years of my academic career was small; there were no extra rooms; and I wasn’t going to try to make part of my bedroom or my children’s bedrooms into a study! For all academic purposes I had to have my office on campus, and I did almost all my work there, including the writing of several books. In addition, my office was the only place where I could have reasonable peace and quiet for working intensively.
I’m also old-fashioned enough to own, use, and enjoy a large collection of books, which are essential to my work. My house, even the bigger one that I now live in, could not possibly house them all. Once again, I need my office for that purpose.
For those reasons, I “clung” to my office in the past, and I will continue to “cling” to it. Some people in the humanities still do individual work. Collaborative research is fine; it just isn’t what all of us do. I continue to write books by myself, without collaboration; publishers continue to publish them. I feel no shame in valuing and needing my office; I refuse to consider myself as “belonging to another age” or as selfish for doing so.
hank_devereaux_jr - May 25, 2011 at 5:09 pm
Experimentation and innovation are wonderful — if they are mutually agreed up by faculty and administrators.
But, Fallacy of Composition applies to this dialogue. What is preferable for a sub-component of faculty is not preferable for all. Some who “cling” to their offices have very good reasons for doing so.
The diversity of discipline, personality, and responsibility for teaching v. research v. service vary enormously across and within institutions — and so do faculty needs for private offices.
Some, at institutions more focused on teaching, need more than an occasional seminar room to meet privately with students. Some faculty need private office space to store the files of the dozens of students they have to advise. Faculty at teaching oriented colleges can’t get by with office hours only by appointment, but are expected to be available at set times — just in case a student comes by. It helps to have a place to get work done in between student visits. Private office space filled with hundreds of books in the disciplines one teaches and researches are handy for meetings with the numerous undergraduates supervised in independent studies.
For the professors in a research university – some disciplines and fields of research within disciplines don’t involve collaborative research with one’s colleagues down the hall — but collaborative research with colleagues across the country or the globe. A private office with your own computer, files, printer and telephone for private conversations is productivity enhancing.
Finally, in my academic career I have noted numerous faculty parents who keep children in their offices during spring and summer breaks, snow days, when a child is sick, on holidays when public school is closed but the university is open, etc. Work-family balance *is* an on-going issue in the professoriate. Providing individual office space has costs — but let’s not phase them out until we have weighed the benefits. How many more faculty (male and female) would be staying home, canceling or rescheduling classes and meetings — if they had no private office where they could bring their children when needed?
I vote for offices.
dnewton137 - May 25, 2011 at 5:10 pm
The eighteenth century “bureaucracy” that drove the creation of the current academic ideal was in fact a group of prominent faculty who convinced the Prussian government, represented by Wilhelm von Humboldt (brother of Alexander), that it should found the world’s first research university. It did so, in Berlin in 1810.
Incidentally, what’s “Protestant” got to do with that bit of history?
Michael Byron Nelson - May 25, 2011 at 5:40 pm
I need my office! Don’t take it away!
While I could be satisfied with a different type of office arrangement, perhaps an office space like I’ve seen at Google or Pixar (where would the money come from to build such spaces?), I do fully rely on my office on campus for work. I am one of those who really finds it difficult to work at home. And I know a large number of others who feel the same way.
dnewton137 - May 25, 2011 at 5:54 pm
OOPS! 1810 was in the nineteenth century, as stated by Thrift.
wilkenslibrary - May 25, 2011 at 6:16 pm
As a contingent faculty member, I am one of the lucky few to have an office, albeit shared, where I have bookshelves and file drawer space, access to a computer and a telephone, and a place to go before and after class to prep or grade papers or meet with students or colleagues. For those of us who teach regularly and long-term, it is wonderful to be able to leave books and papers there between semesters. Some semesters, I have shared with as few as four others; one semester, we were nineteen, but there has always been lots of shelf space and sufficient file drawer space around the four desks and three computers for us to be comfortable. Our fabulous administrative assistant and our department chair make sure to distribute contingent faculty among several available offices based at least in part on our schedules, so that we don’t tread on our colleague’s toes too much. Some of us use the office more than others, but I’m pretty sure that we all value it and feel grateful that our department provides us that space.
Betsy Smith/Adjunct Professor of ESL/Cape Cod Community College.
kathleenchgriffin - May 25, 2011 at 6:56 pm
Of course, you are preaching to the tenured, and ignoring 50% of college instructors.
As a gypsy scholar teaching part-time at more than one institution, I needn’t worry about office space: About 60 of us share a small classroom, and at that we have the best adjunct office in the building! Try meeting students when there ate 7 instructors in a room with 3 desks, a table, and 3 PCs. Then try having no space at all, as in 2 colleges, but a small open mailbox. And as I live in a 2.5 room apartment, not a house with the luxury of a study, imagine the living room which is currently filled with student files, papers, 7 bookcases, and a computer desk. I don’t earn enough to itemize and claim my living room as my home office.
duppy_conqueror - May 25, 2011 at 10:10 pm
Interesting. As a career adjunct, my office is whatever horizontal surface is at hand, often just my lap if all the tables are already taken. More than a few times, it’s been the driver’s seat and steering wheel of my freeway flyer-mobile, but not (yet) while driving! :)
Pierre - May 26, 2011 at 6:53 am
The move towards “working from home” is one that blurs the boundaries between the academic’s working life and their private life. It makes sense in a world where working hours make little sense and creative working is expected to continue and impinge on private life. I argue this lack of clear separation can be detrimental to the work of many (through, for instance, more distractions – although the office is not free from distractions).
However, in practical terms, not having an office on campus makes it harder for students to contact their lecturer. If universities are concerned with the advancement of knowledge, they should be concerned with the tuition and support of students, and for a visible presence (outside of lectures) of academics. Shared spaces are of course perfectly acceptable as long as long discussions with students are not expected in those spaces – the mere presence of an extra person in the room increases fear of judgement on the student’s part, should they ask a stupid question; the discussion distracts the other person from their own work.
The quote “providing offices which are smaller because they no longer assume student interaction except on a very small scale” is yet another indication that universities are no longer concerned with teaching or supporting (undergraduate) students in their overall training. A lecturer should be able to welcome a group of students who don’t understand specific parts of the course into their office – or in a designated postgraduate’s office. These offices should hold relevant course material (which the lecturer/postgrad would probably own as a part of their research). More importantly, they should be easily accessible to students and merged with the undergraduate student’s life, rather than all grouped in the same area.
If such offices were actually used, then maybe academia and the world of research would seem less obscure to undergraduate students who would then move on to carry out some research themselves.
crankycat - May 26, 2011 at 8:16 am
Are you kidding me? The author may not mind being part of that beehive, but it’s driving me absolutely bonkers. I work in a building built just three years ago, in which the faculty offices have modular walls. It is freakin’ NIGHTMARE. There is no quiet, no uninterrupted work time, no privacy. It is universally HATED. When faculty wish to have private phone conversations, they take their cell phones and go into a less populated hallway. When they want to actually work – they leave the office and go home or to a conference room. The lack of a quiet place to work is incredibly disruptive.
HistoryGirl - January 12, 2012 at 11:09 pm
This happens more than any of us want to admit. Das is one who has been caught but most researchers I know have ‘cooked’ data to some degree-not just in terms of differences in analysis, but in was that support conclusions the researcher wishes to make. There is too darn little over site of this wither within the academy or outside of it – especially when researchers are using (and bringing in) substantive external funding.
svenbali - January 12, 2012 at 11:52 pm
Really, manoflamanch? You can generalize this easily? And 8 likes?! I am surprised that no one has spoken out at this outrageous posting.
How many cases of fraud vs. number of researchers are there by national origin?
katisumas - January 13, 2012 at 12:41 am
I am no longer surprised after the blatantly racist posts of the last few days and all the “likes” appended to them. Did you read the fellow who claimed blacks were less intelligent than whites and the darker they were the less intelligent?
I am afraid white supremacists have moved into the mainstream and Manoflamancha generalizing from 2 (two!) instances and not even bothering with comparative data is a sorry exemple….