April 18, 2008
Obama Trounces Clinton Among Pennsylvania College Students
If only college students were voting in next week’s Democratic primary in Pennsylvania, the contest wouldn’t even be close.
A poll of 2,366 Pennsylvania college students released today by CBS News and UWIRE, a news service for student newspapers, found Barack Obama backed by 71 percent, with Hillary Rodham Clinton receiving only 28 percent. That compares to statewide polls among all voters, which have been showing Tuesday’s primary between Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton as too close to call.
The poll, conducted April 3-14 among undergraduates at 14 four-year colleges and universities across Pennsylvania, also found the students preferred either Democrat over the expected Republican nominee, John McCain. The poll of Pennsylvania college students shows Mr. Obama with 71 percent of the support against Mr. McCain, and Mrs. Clinton with 58 percent if she’s the Democratic nominee.
The difference was attributed by the pollsters to the preferences of young male voters, who split equally when given a choice of Mr. McCain and Mrs. Clinton, but supported Mr. Obama by a 2-1 margin if he’s the Democratic nominee.
Mr. McCain did receive one top rating, with 72 percent of Pennsylvania college students who are registered voters saying they believe the 71-year-old Republican has the experience necessary to be president, compared to rates of 63 percent for Mr. Obama and 64 percent for Mrs. Clinton.
The Pennsylvania college students gave Mr. McCain that rating despite the fact that most of those surveyed, 54 percent, said they believed the Arizona senator did not care about young voters.
Paul Basken | Posted on Friday April 18, 2008 | PermalinkComments
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Obama is put off by the Pope for he is used to being the one to Pontificate.
Did you see him turn and look away from Bill Richardson when Bill was endorsing him. Looked like Bama wanted to avoid contact with BR including not wanting to smell him.
His potification will grow stale in a real campaign you watch. He is like Kerry, Dukakis, Mondale, Stevenson and others who look down or away from the average person… he will lose.
Clinton did not win the 1992 election Perot gave it to him. In ’92 Clinton got 43% of the popular vote the same as Dukakis in ’88 and Mondale in ’84.
This is being handed to the Repubs once again.
— james smith Apr 18, 04:21 PM #
I disagree with you, Mr. Smith. I think Barack Obama is a breath of fresh air. Should Clinton win the election, this would mean either a Clinton or a Bush has been in the White House for the last 20 years. That is too dynastic and monarchical for me!
Did you see his excellent speech on race? I wouldn’t say he is like Kerry or Dukadis, etc. He is much more than that.
The only way the election can be handed to the Republicans is if Hillary wins the Democratic nomination. She has too much baggage and lately has been very Atwater-esque with her campaign adds.
— Tom Apr 18, 04:30 PM #
A candidate like Obama seldom comes along. The beauty of the democratic system is that it allows us to correct our blunders. Bush has done one thing good – he has accelerated the need for a new world order and given us the urgency for change.
— Artie Apr 18, 04:48 PM #
Poor Pontificating Obama..he has no experience, has lots of questionable association putting it mildly and the Repubs are rooting for him but they want Hillary to stay alive as long as possible.
America has never had a person so inexperienced (2 years in senate and nothing else) in our history unless it is W and see what his certainity has brought us….Awesome speeches…sorry but the truth hurts.
— james smith Apr 18, 06:59 PM #
Mr. Smith,
Your arguments are not new. There was another presidential candidate who was “the youngest man ever” to take the office. His friends called him Jack, but history remembers him as John F. Kennedy, thirty-fifth president of the United States. Very unlike Pres. Bush, JFK’s legacy is known as “Camelot” and this “young man” led our nation through some of the most difficult, yet socially progressive times in our existence.
If nothing else, I’ll say this for Mr. Obama: He is a bright, energetic, intelligent young man who brings a message of hope that has long been needed and desired. You may say it’s just words – “awesome speeches” – but hope goes a long way. That’s why come this November, my vote will be for Mr. Obama.
— John Apr 18, 07:41 PM #
I know Jack Kennedy well (not like the former senator from Texas and I can tell you this guy is no Jack Kennedy. Kennedy was a war hero, served several terms in the House of Representatives, Served two terms in the Senate, ran for President in 1956 and was elected in 1960. To suggest that a guy with no experience is Jack Kennedy is an insult to Kennedy’s memory.
Obama is more like Dan Quayle than John Kennedy. And wait til the Repubs get into his private life this fall…
— james smith Apr 18, 08:10 PM #
Mr. Smith (#6), I feel for you because I suspect it is uncomfortable when some one makes a lot of sense that is different from the same-old-same-old politics.
Democracy is great. Now that we have heard you, let us hear the others. These others are the voters. You can spin it anyway you like, but it ain’t going to do it. Americans are simply tired of the same nonsense, election after election.
Obama it is !!!
— /Really Concerned Apr 18, 09:55 PM #
College kids really want change after living with the Bushes. But Obama seems to be a work in progress and needs some experience. World leaders will eat him for lunch and he will just talk about it. He seems to make excuses for his actions or blame others for not seeing things his way. He may have rock star status with non-thinkers even if on a superficial level but seems to lack the maturity to grasp issues that divide people. His candidacy is causing a bigger divide than most people want. Looks like our choices are few this time. College students have to learn the hard way it seems.
— Bob Alklen Apr 18, 11:44 PM #
To #8, Robert Reich, John Kerry, Bill Richardson, Claire McCaskill, Christopher Dodd, and Bob Casey are not “non thinkers.” They have endorsed Obama. More than just “college kids” want change. If you think McCain and his war are best for America, than that is your choice. I just hope you have enough young people in YOUR family to support McCain’s 100 year plan for Iraq.
— Ve Apr 19, 12:16 AM #
Freedom is not free. Sometimes a spin from within can be more dangerous than those who threaten us from abroad. The question is, do we recognize the difference
— Ross Apr 19, 12:40 AM #
Luckily male college students don’t vote, so who cares about the poll. And should it be a surprise that they say they would vote for Obama? Most of them can’t read anyway, so they can look to Obama to think for them. And that’s where the real problems will set in. It may be time for McCain to reinstate the draft after he gets elected.
— Mary Apr 19, 02:51 AM #
“Robert Reich, John Kerry, Bill Richardson, Claire McCaskill, Christopher Dodd, and Bob Casey” and why not add the usually drunk Teddy to this list of air heads. Kerry could have won simply by selecting Clark as VP instead of an over ambitous first term senator from NC which would never go for a Kerry. And Chris Todd got “0” votes this time so he is a real persona…reliving his fathers failed career as a senator. And poor Claire she titters and tutters all the time and never makes sense. Richardson is clearly an ambitious Judas and Casey looks as though he is from Venus in his television interviews. He rode his father’s name to office for one term..believe me.
So these are the supporters of Obama…not that impressive to me.
Did I hear that Casey fainted at an Obama rally in Penn? No wonder Obama looks down his nose at America.
— james smith Apr 19, 08:15 AM #
To #12, You have a lot of negative irrelevant statements to make about almost everyone. Do you know these people personally? You said that you knew John Kennedy well. Did you know him better than Ted Kennedy, who is supporting Obama? You said Richardson is an ambitious Judas. Unless you are part of his inner circle and privy to direct conversations with him, you are only speculating and casting aspersions on his character, while hiding behind anonymity. Faulty logic was used in post #8 and then when it’s pointed out, all you can do is make personal attacks.
You said (#6) wait until the Republicans get into Obama’s private life. Well, McCain has a few problems in his private and PUBLIC life. I don’t know if the Democratic Party will use all of it against him, but there are enough supporters of Obama (not in his campaign or officially connected with the Democratic Party) who can attack back. I will certainly mention all of McCain’s baggage against anyone who attempts to smear Obama. I will only speak the truth. With McCain’s baggage, lies aren’t necessary.
— Ve Apr 19, 10:42 AM #
Teddy Kennedy killed the Carter administration and is a shame on America. So if he is your light on the hill then here we go again…down the road of Teddies, Mikies, Stevies, Walteys, Johnnies, Allies and all the other heros of the liberals who have abandoned the America that John Kennedy represented….Teddy is a coward and John Kennedy was a true national hero…and where was Barack Hussian Obama say in the cold war, in the first gulf war etc…
The truth is if the Democratic party loses this one the party will fade away like the Whigs of old.
Ps glad you know about his private life…how did you get to know that? :)~
— james smith Apr 19, 06:42 PM #
To# 14 You didn’t answer my questions. You just continued on with your personal attacks without substantiation. People usually make personal attacks, when they can’t attack issues.
I didn’t say Ted Kennedy was the light on a hill. You claimed to know John Kennedy well, but didn’t answer my question as to whether you knew him better than his brother, who supports Obama.
I will answer the one question that you posed to me. McCain’s public and private mistakes are well known and documented. More importantly, he has admitted his wrongdoing and so my statements against him won’t be smears.
I’m not sure what you mean when you ask where was Obama during the Cold War. It’s a little like asking where was Dick Cheney during the Vietnam War. If you really want the answer, look it up on the internet. I certainly know Cheney didn’t serve in the military during the Vietnam War.
Yes, the Democratic Party could lose the presidency, as so could the Republicans. If the party fades away, so be it. Just don’t think you will be able to sling mud at the Democrats, without the TRUTH of McCain’s misdeeds, as ADMITTED by McCain, being brought to the attention of voters. I just hope that if McCain does win, and he continues this 12 billion dollars a month war, there will still be an America that isn’t completely owned by China.
— Ve Apr 19, 08:02 PM #
In 1284, the town of Hamelin is suffering from a terrible plague of rats. The town council tries everything to get rid of them — without success. At last, the Mayor promises 1000 florins to the one who can put an end to the plague.
A stranger dressed in bright red and yellow clothes shows up and says he can rid Hamelin of the rats. At night, the stranger starts to play a soft tune on a flute, luring all the rats out of the houses and barns towards the river Weser, where they drown.
The Mayor refuses to pay the piper: “Playing a tune on a flute is not worth 1000 florins. Get out of Hamelin!”
But the piper returns on a Sunday morning, when all the grown-ups are at church. Again he starts to play a tune on his flute. This time, all the children follow him, as he walks out of the gate to the mountains. Suddenly, a cave opens in the mountain. The piper walks into the mountain, still followed by the children, and the cave closes again.
The children were never seen again in Hamelin.
— james smith Apr 20, 09:02 AM #
The actual historical inspiration of the Pied Piper legend may have been the infamous Children’s Crusade of 1212, in which 20,000 young crusaders, led by a German youth named Barack, died.
— james smith Apr 20, 09:05 AM #
To all the undecided voters out there, posts 1,4, 6, 12, 14, 16 and 17 are representative examples of the way at least some of the people who oppose Obama think. They are not concerned about a 12 billion dollars a month war, American deaths in Iraq, an economy in the toilet, or explaining their position based on facts and not smears. They merely want to repeat “fairy/horror tales” and make personal attacks on people.
To all the undecided voters out there, the choice is clear. Vote for McCain and his 12 billion dollars a month war, stay home, or vote for Obama.
— Ve Apr 20, 09:56 AM #
Obama’s primary international policy adviser told the Brits not to believe him on Iraq. Then another principal advisor on economics privately told the Canadians not to worry about Obama on Nafta. So don’t worry about Obama he will not change anything except to side with Hamas against Israel. Don’t worry…
The actual historical inspiration of the Pied Piper legend may have been the infamous Children’s Crusade of 1212, in which 20,000 young crusaders, led by a German youth named Nicholas, died.
— james smith Apr 20, 12:10 PM #
To all the undecided voters, you will have to decide if McCain is a flip flopper on issues. He gave one opinion about the Confederate flag in 2000, but then shortly after losing to Bush, McCain gave another position and said referring to his first position, “So I chose to compromise my principles.”
At one time he opposed Bush’s tax cuts for the wealthy, but now I think he supports them. There are a host of other issues as well. Just type in “McCain flip flops” on the internet to see MANY other examples on DIFFERENT issues.
If you would prefer to see video of McCain advocating first one position and then another, go to www.youtube.com and search for “McCain’s flip flop express.”
Now I actually don’t have a problem with someone changing positions as he/she grows and reflects, but when it happens too quickly (e.g. the Confederate flag issue), then I have a tendency to think people are sacrificing principle for political gain, which McCain ADMITTED that he had done. So, if he did it once, how often will he do it again?
I think McCain is consistent in support of the 12 billion dollars a month Iraqi war, that at least some contend is helping us to get into deeper debt with China.
To all the undecided voters out there, the choice is clear. Vote for McCain and his 12 billion dollars a month war, stay home, or vote for Obama.
— Ve Apr 20, 01:23 PM #
Don’t get the cart before the horse we may end up with Al yet again. He would walk away with it.
— james smith Apr 20, 01:33 PM #
Like all great myths, the Pied Piper of Hamelin has appeared and reappeared in innumerable variations throughout the world. Some point to the ancient literature of China and Persia as the source of the tale. The Rev. Sabine Baring-Gould believed that parts of the story originated in Greek and Sanskrit mythology. The irresistible influence of the sirens’ song in Homer’s Odyssey may have been another inspiration.
Now there is Pied Piper from Africa or …
— james smith Apr 20, 01:44 PM #
Or is it Jay-Z brushing everybody off as he cruises to his entitlement…..
— james smith Apr 20, 03:07 PM #
PLEASE GO AND VOTE TUESDAY!
Hillary in a close door fund raiser, lied, smeared, and bashed MoveOn.Org! MoveOn a democratic activist group, was founded and started when Pres Clinton was being IMPEACHED by the Right WIng for none other than Lying…Well Clinton as well as Edwards actively sought out their endorsement, as they are 3.2 million strong, of Dem voters, donors, and volunteers. They promote Al Gore in GLobal Warming, assist in Dem Senators & Congressmen getting elected & re Elected, feed the world programs, stop genisie, and support our troops with aid both home and at war. MoveOn gave their endorsement to Obama, and Hillary bashed them, on tape…similar to “bitter” comments. It has been reported by Huffington Post, MSNBC, ABC, and all over internet. HILLARY IS NOT A UNITER. WITH FRIENDS LIKE THIS WHO NEEDS ENEMIES!
— lee Apr 20, 03:54 PM #
Sure ask him about William Ayers….he loves the guy and Rev WRight…and Ole Hamas and…Farrakan(sp)….wait for the rest of the story as Mcain cruises to a victory….Bring on John Edwards he has been vetted or I sure would like to vote for Big Al
— james smith Apr 20, 06:05 PM #
Mr. James Smith…. after reading all your continued negativities above and as you desparately make the effort to stick to the same old politics as usual, I came to the conclusion that you have had your say. So let it go. As I said in #7, it ain’t going to happen this time. We, the American people are truly tired ….whether it is Bush, Cheney, McCain, or you. Just let us, the American people, be. In case there is a need to repeat it …..freedom also includes the freedom to decide who one would like to vote for, whether “you, the all-knowing, all-wise, all-right-all-the-time” approve or not.
— /Really Concerned Apr 21, 12:10 PM #
Well I just saw Obama whining again today. If they were able to paint John Kerry a coward then anything is possible with Obama a man we know nothing about…they will. Clinton cannot do it now but Al Gore or John Edwards could win…but never can Obama for one thing he is not qualified..peroid.
— james smith Apr 21, 06:58 PM #
Mr. James Smith…. you seem to be enjoying this. Well, much luck to you.
— /Really Concerned Apr 21, 10:15 PM #
No I am not for I have always been amazed in a depressed way at the Pied Piper story…and so see so called educated Ameriicans falling in line marching over a cliff is amazing if depressing.
— james smith Apr 22, 11:07 AM #