After arriving home from school last night, I read a long reader response to my post on why the idea of “consumer empowerment” (now used by everyone in the health-care debate) is wrongheaded. Commentator ledzep, arguing against my unapologetic liberal leanings on the issue of health care, concluded by saying it was not my “most responsibly argued piece” — as if, like a teenager arriving home a little drunk, I needed chastising. Here’s my response:
ledzep (quoting LF): “Translation: Keep the bountiful profits rolling into the pockets of the private health-insurance companies.” And how does the individual mandate do anything different from this? Even more, in fact – the profits will increase. Do you think the insurance companies are afraid of being given a captive market? The government is going to force young, healthy people into buying insurance – the insurance executives are high-fiving themselves in their offices… the government is poised to guarantee them an enormous bump in number of paying customers.
Note that ledzep conveniently ignores my conclusion, where I wrote, “It’s an iteration of the Right’s old strategy for ‘starving the beast’ — underfunding government programs and then pointing to their underperformance as evidence of the inevitable failure of government programs) — that might be called ‘hamstring the beast.’” Which is to say — horrors — socialist single-payer is never on the table, and — horrors — socialist public option is beaten off of it, so what you’re left with is a “reformed” system of private health insurance. Then the Right says to moderate Lefties, “You wouldn’t want to deliver even more customers to the likes of Aetna, would you? So let’s start over.” What ledzep means is, “Let’s pretend to start over while, in reality, you reformers just give up.” It’s a nice trick. I guess it needs spelling out that the idea is that price regulation with even the littlest bit of teeth will prevent mandated coverage contributing to the gouging. As for the government-guaranteed bump in customers for the health-insurance industry: Well, duh, of course, if you’re going to get those 40-plus million people covered, and you’re not going to permit a public option, the health-insurance companies are going to get more customers. A bitter pill to swallow, but a better pill than no pill at all.
And yes, a good insurance plan must force young, healthy people to buy insurance. When a 22-year old breaks a leg while jogging, or has an attack of appendicitis, or comes down with swine flu, tell me what a good society (which is the real underlying debate here) should do. “So sorry that in your lack of wisdom you failed to buy insurance. Now go die.” Keep in mind that many libertarian sorts, believing the government had no right to “tell them what to do,” rebelled at laws requiring using seat belts in cars. Yet though the law constricts individual freedom, the law is just if considered in light of the good of the whole. Among other things, it’s valuable in a utilitarian sense. It protects those of us who choose to use seat belts from bearing the serious consequences of letting others “freely choose” to not use them.
ledzep: The central canard here is that conservatives want this to be completely market-driven, with no safety net at all.
Here’s the proper metaphor: A man (the 40-plus million de facto uninsured Americans) has to jump from a tall building (his uninsured status) in order to escape a fire (death, debility or financial ruination); conservatives, who aren’t totally heartless, want the man to have a safety net — a hula hoop with some cheesecloth duct-taped to it. Anything more substantial amounts to “socialism.”
ledzep: You could take a look at David Goldhill’s piece in The Atlantic, which is only one of the most talked-about pieces of journalism to come out on the subject in the past year.
I looked. The Goldhill article in The Atlantic has lots of problems — which may be why ledzep attaches only the neutral adjective “talked about” to it instead of something more praiseworthy. Note in particular that Goldhill admits that his proposal is complicated and would take years and years to implement. And that’s before Congress has a go at it.
For an argument deeply opposed to Goldhill’s, read what Wendell Potter, the ex-Cigna executive who spent 20 years on the inside of the health insurance industry (easily giving him as much credibility as Goldhill) has to say. Regarding the most recent dramatic rise in health-care insurance rates for individuals and small businesses, Potter says: “Well, these [insurance] companies are for-profit companies, and they think first and foremost about their shareholders. That’s the first stakeholder that they consider. And they know that they have to meet those expectations or their stock prices will suffer.” Potter supports the current health-care bill, warts and all. But I suppose ledzep thinks Potter would change his mind if only he’d listen to the same fatherly advice about “responsibly argued” opinions on health care he offered me.
ledzep: As for the belief in the magical informed consumer, has it ever occurred to you that although everybody certainly has as much of a right to sustenance as to decent health care, we don’t need a system like the proposed health insurance entitlement to ensure that everybody in America can eat? … and the cost of food for everyone is held down, in large part, by just those market tendencies that you so ridicule in the health care context. … Why is the moral status of health care somehow different from that of food?
Let me get this straight: Since we have no government program that makes sure that nobody starves to death, it follows (logically? pragmatically? ethically?) that we should have no government program to make sure that everybody has health insurance. And, I suppose, since we have no government program that makes sure everybody has health insurance, it follows that we should have no government program that requires students stay in school until they are 16. And so on.
Contrary to what ledzep says, the cost of food for everyone is not held down largely by “those market tendencies you so ridicule in the health context.” The cost of food is held down largely by the government through the enormous subsidies given to giant agribusiness corporations, who bear somewhat the same relationship to actual farmers as health insurers do to doctors. Differences between health care and food? Let’s see. Hungry and with no money, you cadge a meal from a friend. Broken arm and no money, you ask a friend — say, an insurance company executive — to set it for you.
ledzep: A a big part of the challenge to serious conservative ideas on the matter is that liberals will just say no.
To make the sentence above jibe with current reality, switch the words “conservative[s]” with “liberal” and remove the word “will.”


7 Responses to The Disempowered Consumer
ledzep - March 7, 2010 at 4:18 am
Thanks for your response. I just wrote a long comment in reply, but the site ate it. I’ll try again later.
mercy_otis_warren - March 8, 2010 at 9:46 am
“Yet though the law constricts individual freedom, the law is just if considered in light of the good of the whole. Among other things, it’s valuable in a utilitarian sense. It protects those of us who choose to use seat belts from bearing the serious consequences of letting others ‘freely choose’ to not use them.” Maybe I’m just especially dumb this morning, but how does my refusing to use a seat belt make it more likely that I’ll get into a car accident that injures *you*? I’m hard-pressed to see how mandates of seat-belt use are the best illustration of your principle. More significantly, is the above really your governing thesis of the law (laws that constrict individual freedom are just if considered in light of the good of the whole)? Are you serious? Then I take it you would maintain the following laws would be “just”: banning cars; instituting forced labor for, say, service in hospitals; reinstituting the military draft; outlawing single parenthood; banning cigarettes; and, oh, maybe permitting a community to censor art it considers to be deleterious to public standards.
goxewu - March 8, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Is it one of the heretofore unnoticed effects of global warming that’s turning erstwhile reasonable people into the equivalents of bunkered survivalists on the outskirts of Coeur d’ Alene, Idaho? Is the new bumpersticker now “Eternal Paranoia is the Price of Liberty”? Every time a law “constrict[s] individual freedom” (to, say drive on the left side of the street or pay for your cheeseburger in money you print yourself), does it mean another squadron of black UN helicopters called in by the ZOG Government is taking flight to death-ray your Identity church?Why is it so difficult to comprehend that in laws that “constrict individual freedom” (don’t all laws do that?), there are degrees of practicality (banning cars across the board simply couldn’t be enacted or implemented; fining or jailing unwed parents would cause more problems than it’d “solve”) and specificity (cars are indeed banned in certain places)? Smoking and selling cigarettes are severely restricted, and communities do indeed “censor art [they] determine to be deleterious to public standards.” (And it’s not always from the Right; a while back a mural in the South depicting a famous general in Confederate uniform had to be changed to showing the general in non-deleterious civilian clothing.) As for the draft: the idea of compulsory “national service” of either a military or civilian nature is at least reasonable enough for debate. An argument can be made that if we’d had a draft in 2003, and somebody other than mostly working-class grunts had to go get blown up in Iraq, the Cheney-Bush Administration wouldn’t have gotten away with it for five years.There are certainly advantages to the U.S. being–after the Pledge of Allegiance has been recited at school and The Star-Spangle Bannerplayed at March Madness–essentially giant Pickwickian club dedicated to everybody making a buck (aka living “The American Dream”). But one of the disadvantages is the lack of a deep cultural polity, and the kind of sense of community that would, for instance, recognize the need for something other than the empty rhetoric of “an empowered consumer” implemented so that 40+ million Americans de facto without health insurance could be covered. (“Hey, as long as I’ve got my semi-automatic assault rifle, three pit bulls, Hummer2 [Damn! They've quite makin' 'em!], Ten Commandments on the courthouse lawn, and no married queers living in my county, what do I care? You want ‘empowered’? Try to make me buckle my seatbelt, and you’ll see what ‘empowered’ means.”)Note: To repeat the remedial driver’s ed material–1. Driving is not a right, but a privilege; you need a license to do it; 2. Drivers who don’t wear seatbelts, like bikers who don’t wear helmets or kids who ride in pickup beds, are disproportionate burdens on highway cops, other people’s insurance rates, emergency rooms, etc.
ledzep - March 8, 2010 at 3:47 pm
This form won’t let me post a comment sufficiently long to reply. I’ll try to break it up.
ledzep - March 8, 2010 at 5:49 pm
I give up – I’ve emailed you my reply. I can’t post anything longer than a few sentences for some reason.
ledzep - March 8, 2010 at 5:54 pm
For the record here, my point about food was nothing like what you took it to be. It was a counterargument. I just meant that the following inference is a bad one: X is a good that, in a moral society, ought to be available to all, therefore there should be a universal entitlement program providing X to all. Food was the counterexample – we have programs to ensure that citizens don’t starve, but we don’t have a universal entitlement program to provide food.
marka - March 8, 2010 at 8:06 pm
“And yes, a good insurance plan must force young, healthy people to buy insurance.” What nonsense!Yet another reason why a system funded in significant part by general taxes makes some sense. All we have to give up is a chunk of our collective wealth to get there. And in our progressive tax system, those with more wealth can give a larger share than those without. Hitting up young, healthy people, who may be without, to pay for wealthier older people, seems outrageously unfair to me — the most regressive way to do things, to my mind. Older folks tend to have far more resources, as a cohort, than do the young.Yikes, this ‘health care’ debate has really got folks going over the edge into hyperbole. I guess it depends on what ‘good’ means — this is just the tip of the iceberg on the generational transfer of wealth from the young to the old. Of course, if we ‘spread the risk’ by ‘forcing’ people into the pool, those of us at higher risk will get the lower risk people to pay for our risk. What’s wrong with this picture? It isn’t bad enough for the next generation to be looking at funding the pay-as-you-go schemes of Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, etc. — they’ll be shouldering the burden even sooner for folks ahead of them (read those not quite yet eligible for SS, M/M, etc.). Many practical problems to surmount on the ‘sick care’ system we now have, and paying for it is once of the biggest. From my vantage point, Americans are still not willing to give up ‘choice’ — the use of all available means, whether effect or not — and also are not willing to pay for it. Collectively, we want to eat our cake, and have it too. What I hear is I want everything available of our most expensive technology & services, and I want someone else to pay for it. In most other ‘insurance’ systems, premiums have some relationship to risk. ‘Health’ ‘insurance’ is not like that, as now proposed. Personally, as someone who is just a few years shy of those entitlements (SS, M/M), I really don’t see any moral or ethical problem with charging folks for their own risk profile, to the extent folks have some ability to influence outcomes. If I’m in a few accidents, I should be prepared to pay a higher premium. If my home is in a earthquake/flood/hurricane zone, I should expect to pay a higher premium. If I don’t control my diet or exercise – and therefore need ‘treatment’ that wouldn’t be necessary otherwise – why shouldn’t I pay more for that risk? For example, there is plenty of evidence that much obesity, and some diabetes can be ameliorated by simple diet/exercise regimens — let’s reward those who do so by lowering their premiums (assuming we still adhere to an ‘insurance’ paradigm).Sigh …