Will someone please help me out and fill in the blank?
When I was in fifth or sixth grade, we had a “unit” on world civilizations, which was probably a worthwhile endeavor, an early version of today’s training in multiculturalism. We learned, for example, that we owed gunpowder, the compass, and printing to the Chinese; the numeric calendar to the Mayans; algebra to the Arabs; and that we should thank the ancient Egyptians for monotheism.
It all seemed self-evident and beyond dispute: Different societies contributed different things to the inevitable march of civilization, culminating, of course, in us.
But today I have my doubts – not about the compass, the calendar, or algebra, but frankly, I’m more than a little on the fence when it comes to monotheism. Even as a child I couldn’t help wondering whether pharaoh Akhenaton plumped for monotheism for his own selfish reasons, because he wanted his followers to see himself as a reflection of an all-powerful, unitary deity on earth.
My question is simply this: Is there any reason to consider that unlike the compass or algebra, there is any sense in which monotheism can objectively be seen as an step forward over, say, polytheism (the belief in many gods) or pantheism (that the world itself is imbued with the divine)? It is one thing, of course, to unthinkingly venerate monotheism as an “advance” simply because it is true, analogous to prizing the heliocentric universe over its less accurate geocentric predecessor.
Putting the subjective theology of the Abrahamic religions aside, however – and seeing it (if only for the sake of argument) as an invention rather than a discovery – what is the basis for concluding that monotheism isn’t a step sideways, or even backward? Is it one-half as good as papyrus?
Now that I’ve graduated from the sixth grade and its automatic presumption that the curriculum is the word of, well, god, it seems to me that a world-view that identifies a multiplicity of gods – one perched in this tree, inherent in that rock, animating that bird, inside me, you, a waterfall and a mountain – is far more likely to generate tolerance and live-and-let-live. After all, certainty about the existence of one true god seems likely to predispose toward comparable certainty that there is only one truth – itself sufficient justification, at least at times, to kill or be killed in its furtherance.
That said, I’m open to alternative arguments. So tell me something good about monotheism … aside from the fact that it is “obviously” the Truth and the Light and the only valid Way to envision the world.


50 Responses to Monotheism was a Civilizational Advance Because _______
downes - December 27, 2010 at 11:06 am
… because it represents the discovery of parsimony as an explanatory principle.
In a world where all explanations are theistic, this discovery manifests itself as monotheism.
In the world of syllogism and philosophy, this discovery manifests itself as Ockham’s Razor.
In the modern world of scientific explanation, this principle manifests itself as parsimony, the preference for simple and underlying causes, such as laws of nature.
Parsimony is a methodological principle, and by itself no guarantor of truth, but the search for single, underlying sameness has, historically, led to improvements in efficiency and discovery.
willismg - December 27, 2010 at 11:12 am
I’m not sure that monotheism is the impetus for discord that you present, nor that polytheism in any of its guises leads to singing around campfires.
It seems that the prior polytheistic civilizations had no trouble coming up with justifications for annihilating their neighbors (and their subjects) for not accepting the official brand.
And of course, even when we all have the same One God, as is the case with the Judeo-Christian-Muslim sects, there seems to be no end of rationalization for genocidal crusades by all sides.
Perhaps it is more that as long as we are willing to invest supreme power in any human agent of any religion, be it the Pope, or the Emperor, or the Pharaoh, or whomever, we can be convinced to further the agent’s agenda of furthering their own power under the cloak of divine authority.
agnana - December 27, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Ah yes, the peaceful polytheistic Aztecs… and the Maya… and the Assyrians…
But I suppose I should put sarcasm aside and in the spirit of charity assume that Prof. Barash actually wants to know what those of us who are monotheists actually see in it.
I would argue that the intellectual advance of the Egyptians was less the idea of monotheism than the idea of universal moral law- that there are principles of behavior that are applicable across class and culture and that have eternal consequences. Monotheism can flow from this- insofar as the law implies a lawgiver. It doesn’t need to, however, as one can see from looking at Buddhism. However even in the Eastern tradition, the “gods” are still bound by a deeper moral law.
I would argue that monotheism/karma makes possible the Golden Rule- because it implies that all are ultimately answerable to the same judgment. Unfortunately, however, this not a necessary consequence of monotheism. But I would presume that Prof. Barash would affirm that genocide as a societal survival strategy is not a necessary consequence of an evolutionary worldview!
fizmath - December 27, 2010 at 10:26 pm
“For those who believe, no explanation is necessary; for those who do not believe, no explanation is possible”.
barbarapiper - December 28, 2010 at 8:54 am
Well, there is monotheism and there is monotheism. The admonition that you shall not have any other gods before me is, in the original context, an acknowledgment that other gods exist, but this kind of monotheism means simply that you should ignore them. After several thousand years, Judaism ignored them thoroughly enough to pretty much eliminate them from the pantheon, but it’s not so clear in other Mosaic religions.
The problem with “monotheism” in Catholicism is the problem of what a deity is. The Catholic universe is swimming with angels, saints, ghosts of your great- grandmother, and other supernatural beings who can change the natural world through their personal intervention (we wouldn’t have “saints” otherwise). It seems like splitting hairs to call “God” a deity but not these other powerful supernatural beings.
Islam, the other major Abrahamic religion, is also awash in jinns, angels, and other supernatural beings. “There is no god but God” may be an article of faith, but there are plenty of other deities.
As Emile Durkheim noted years ago, religious pantheons tend to resemble social hierarchies, and as powerful monarchs emerged, high gods were quick to follow. But a high god does not preclude other, lesser deities, anymore than a supreme leader or a single monarch eliminates the possibility of other powerful members of a royal class. Even in “monotheism”.
briannafarrete - December 28, 2010 at 11:46 am
Dear barbarapiper:
With your understanding of Catholicism, I take it you must be a protestant. We Christians don’t regard angels or the “ghosts” of our great-grandmothers are deities; no, they are creatures, creations of the Creator, the only deity (though a Muslim friend of mine accused me of being a polytheist, what with my worship of the Trinity).
To explain angels: Angels are spirits, while men are flesh and spirit (but not enfleshed spirits). Angels serve God, especially as messengers.
As for our prayers to our great-grandmothers to “change the natural world”: I imagine, barbarapiper, that you ask your family and friends to pray for you, and that you pray for them. If I may use a typical protestant argument against you: Why ask for their prayers, when you can pray to God directly? By asking for their prayers, (and by praying for them), aren’t you all “changing the natural world through your personal interventions”?
Our great-grandmothers are dead, yes, but they have not vanished from existence. They are still alive, hopefully in Heaven, in God’s presence. Given that they are still alive, then we ask them to pray for us just as we would ask our family and friends on this side of Heaven to pray for us.
As Christians, we believe that death is not the end: “Where, O Death, is your sting?” We are made for eternity; all the more terrifying, then, is hell, and all the more sweet Heaven.
But you are right, barbarapiper, that we Christians believe in supernatural beings. Angels – and souls – are truly super-natural; we believe that there is more to existence than the natural world we see around us. Even more, given men’s natural sex drives, is not the idea of marriage – a committed relationship – super-natural, or at least un-natural? And given the tendency to “look out for Number 1,” isn’t selfishness super-natural, or at least un-natural?
Repent, barbarapiper – that is, re-pent, re-pensive, re-think your “understanding” of the Catholic Faith, the fullness of Christianity.
barbarapiper - December 28, 2010 at 12:23 pm
@briannafarrete:
No, I’m not a protestant — I’m an anthropologist. Your explication of native belief is interesting, and confirms what I wrote.
briannafarrete - December 28, 2010 at 2:43 pm
Dear barbarapiper:
My apologies that I assumed you were a protestant. It’s a standard protestant attack against Catholicism that we “worship” the saints and the Blessed Virgin Mary, and that we practice necromancy by praying to our long-dead family members. Your assertion that the above are “deities” echoed these protestant attacks.
If I may further “explicate my native beliefs” to you, an outsider – As believers in a god, Christians and Muslims believe that there is only one God, and everything else is a creature, even angels and jinns. Although angels are certainly otherwordly, we Christians do not “deify” them (honing in on your assertion that such beings are “deities”); we do not worship them, for worship alone belongs to God. But we DO honor them, moreso the saints and the Blessed Virgin Mary, not because they are otherworldly (they were, after all, human); we honor them, rather, because of their courage and faithfulness to God. This is akin to us Americans honoring soldiers of valor and past presidents such as Washington and Lincoln.
And so, to you, an anthropologist, I explain that there are no deities in our monotheistic religion. But I do see how you misconstrued my Faith as such.
As for the Durkheim comment at the end of your original post, it sounds like you adhere to the idea that men created God in their own image, that He is a construct to justify existing social structures. Of course, as a believer, I disagree with this idea. Man was made in the image of God, and everything reflects God, rather than the other way around. Creation and its laws (especially physics and mathematics) reflect the order and logic of God.
As for the hierarchy of the Church, it also reflects God. The head leads the body, and Jesus is the Head of His Body, the Church. The pope is the Visible Head of the Visible Church (the Church Militant, that is, the people still on Earth). The pope represents (is the representative) of Christ. Hence his title as Vicar of Christ.
Thank you for replying to my first comment. I am glad to have exchanged ideas with an anthropologist. To clear up any misinterpretations of Christianity, I refer you to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, as I cannot come up with another book. I hope you had a Merry Christmas, and I wish you a Happy New Year. Many blessings to you.
morrisville - December 28, 2010 at 3:59 pm
My first thought is that your school was simply celebrating our own American culture as better than others, so that our view of God, as troublesome as it is, is superior and thus worth mention in school.
Less cynically, perhaps monotheism itself wasn’t the advance, but the things that came along with it were. I was always taught in Hebrew School that the innovation that monotheism wrought was the law of Moses that saw rich and poor as equal. (This was always contrasted with Hammurabi’s code, where the poor suffered more for offending the rich than vice versa.)
If you must include religion, how about the new idea that there is one deity for all nations, and therefore all humans are to be treated by the same moral rules? I realize this has been historically breached more than honored, but the ideal is worth considering.
RAD
ronwalczak - December 28, 2010 at 4:02 pm
Morrisville, you said “I refer you to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, as I cannot come up with another book.”
I suggest the Bible.
bjhernandez - December 28, 2010 at 4:04 pm
because it was the first human perception of the idea of one God. If there is only one God, and that God is All there is, then that God has many parts and manifests itself in many different ways.
swish - December 28, 2010 at 4:09 pm
agnana said “I would argue that monotheism/karma makes possible the Golden Rule- because it implies that all are ultimately answerable to the same judgment.”
I never saw any such implication in the Golden Rule. Seems to me the Golden Rule can be used as a guide or rule for ethical behavior no matter how many gods or afterlives one believes in (if any at all).
However, I do see a different implication in the Golden Rule, which I think makes it a very flawed guideline. “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you” implies that I would wish the same things done to me as you would wish done to you … which may certainly not be true. Practiced by well-meaning folks, I think it has caused a great deal of misery to many people (me, anyway, for sure).
I don’t see how monotheism is a necessary precursor to this stupid “rule.” But if it is, I’d hardly call that a point in favor of monotheism.
bondage2 - December 28, 2010 at 4:14 pm
How do the Egyptians get credit for monotheism? The way I heard it, they went back and forth a few times between monotheism and polytheism. What was that, trial and error?
bizdean - December 28, 2010 at 4:22 pm
I’m not a Catholic, but I always thought the cult of Mary as intermediator is quite clever: On some days a person just doesn’t feel up to a one-on-one with the Creator of the universe. A low-pressure chat with Mary sounds like a comfy alternative.
djas2847 - December 28, 2010 at 4:55 pm
For the record, there is no such thing as “monotheism.” All so-called monotheistic religious systems postulate numerous superhuman agents (devils, angels, ghosts, etc.). What monotheism may enjoy, though, is a cultural transmission advantage by “chunking” the multiple deities into an easy-to-remember small number (e.g. the Trinity).
llanorealist - December 28, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Montheism was not a cultural advance because (1) it removed individuals from an individual, transcendental experience with their belief in a supernatural and (2) it formed orthodoxies of belief systems that became inconsistent with the basic Axial age realization that the ultimate expression of religious belief is to treat others as you would treat yourself and serve the poor, underprivileged and differently abled.
alphagamdeb - December 28, 2010 at 5:04 pm
Monotheism quite neatly did away with goddesses and the feminine divine, since inevitably the one deity left standing was male. That’s only one of the several failings of monotheism, in my view.
stinkcat - December 28, 2010 at 5:13 pm
“For the record, there is no such thing as “monotheism.” ”
Such is the problem we have when everyone gets to define their own terms.
cwinton - December 28, 2010 at 5:32 pm
I don’t see anything in briannafarrete’s rationalizations that counter barbarapiper’s statement that “The problem with ‘monotheism’ in Catholicism is the problem of what a deity is.” Moses smashed the tablets with the 10 commandments upon finding his people praying to a golden calf. How would he have reacted if it had been a statue of some Greek god, or by extension, some saint? The Trinity is also troubling, since it was formulated in the 4th century to reunite divisions in Christianity that had different viewpoints on the relationship between God and Christ. Sadly people have lost their lives for subsequently questioning the doctrine formulated at that time. Islam has had its own travails, most notably the closure of ijtihad, the ongoing development of religious thought, which some believe led to stagnation of intellectual achievement in Muslim societies, particularly in science. Its obvious counterpart in Christianity is the claim of inerrancy of Biblical text that some sects insist on.
Back to Mr. Barash’s original question, I think monotheism as an approach to religion was a significant step forward, because it moved societies that sought to practice it away from the locality of personal gods and superstition (although superstition is apparently so ingrained it is still a major element of all religious belief). The idea that there is something, however far beyond our understanding, that governs the universe has enormous appeal, call it God or what you will. Religions seek to demystify the idea of God (or fate) by use of intermediaries (living or dead) who are supposed to have better understanding, and so presumably better access to God. Since people prefer being more than a leaf cast about in a storm, it is hardly surprising they gravitate to religion as a means of influencing and explaining their destiny, a characteristic of human nature that has been exploited from time immemorial by those who cast themselves as religious authorities. The struggle we see today is the reluctance to advance religious thought as we gain understanding of ourselves, our world, and the greater universe in which we reside. The problem with monotheism as practiced to date is that it is still largely caught in how it was conceptualized more than a millennium ago and remains peppered with all manner of superstitious nonsense.
luisosio - December 28, 2010 at 5:42 pm
Dear Dr. Barash, thanks for the question, here is the answer:
All human endeavors depend on hope and optimism which only Monotheism can provide. Think for a moment on how philosophy and science were stifled by the thought of one god jumping in to alter what another god had finished doing; on the possibility of continuous variations in the fundamental laws of nature which, by making them unpredictable, would make research an unintelligent task.
For this reason, no wisdom in the fields of progress has been sourced outside the fundamental Monotheistic intuition.
Modern science confirms Monotheism. We have in all branches of physics the very same laws for the very big as for the very small; and that’s the law from one extreme to the other of the Universe, as was to be expected to happen with the Universe proceeding from a single mind.
I would also suggest your reading for the historical development of science: “How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization” By Thomas E. Woods. Regnery 2005. A fine sequel to Chateaubriand’s “The Genius of Christianity”.
In relation to your academic field of Evolution, all I can say is no, there is no evidence of change or mutation in the physical laws of the Universe that could justify a parallel change in other fields of nature.
Best wishes for 2011.
amcneece - December 28, 2010 at 5:50 pm
“… may be seen as an step”?
philosophy - December 28, 2010 at 6:12 pm
RE luisosio’s suggested reading: add “Aristotle’s Children: How Christians, Muslims, and Jews Rediscovered Ancient Wisdom and Illuminated the Middle Ages” by Richard E. Rubenstein. Many (most?) of the Jews’, Christians’ and Muslims’ worthwhile developments of not only science was inspired by the rediscovery of Aristotle – who in turn was inspired by Plato. I suppose Aristotle was a sort of monotheist – only one unmoved mover – but it’s not at all clear that his science, logic, ethics, aesthetics, etc. depends on or is based on his unmoved mover.
12105442 - December 28, 2010 at 6:21 pm
How about, there are some apple and oranges involved here and evaluating one or the other by the same standard doesn’t seem to be the way to go. For instance, an “advance” in science, say like splitting the atom, isn’t the same sort of advance in civilization as perhaps reaching a consensus that we ought to treat one another as we would want to be treated (regardless whether this was discovered or constructed).
Further complicating things is that even the term civilization “advance” can be understood in many diverse senses. These would include senses like utilitarian (telos) or some sort of “advance” we have a duty to perform without regard to the consequences to name two general ones.
These sort of questions can actually take even the “unproblematic” paradigm examples you cited like the gunpowder, the compass, etc. and make their “advance” much more ambiguous than you may think at first glance. Gunpowder may in the last analysis be very bad thing if its use leads to killing off every or nearly every living thing. And not to make too fine a point of it, there are those who argue we just don’t know what to think about these things.
But the thing I want to point out is that “advances” in metaphysics and religion deserve some special reflection as a separate category. They don’t seem, at least to me, to neatly fall into the same sort of advance category as a compass. Big deal. It seems to me that it could be profitable to think about these sort of things and if you want to play the skeptic about these sort of things, I shall want to play the skeptic about yours.
richardtaborgreene - December 28, 2010 at 8:33 pm
Anyone who believes his/her beliefs (about genitalia, trees in a neighbor’s yard, political matters of who gets what from the common pot, etc., the color purple) are “better” than someone else’s is on the road to mass murder—with or without religion, regardless of how many gods or arms-per-god one has.
Transcendent gods (transcending all those animist spirits that infest and come to us from differences around us) tend historically to remoteness, with the gap filled with guilt (generated along with foods by Jewish moms), candles and permission to sin like hell on the non-sabbath days knowing it will be “washed away” automatically on Sundays (Catholicism), wealth and the world’s most insipid un-inspiring singing (protestantism), and/or sheer nutty-ness plus great singing (evangelical and fundamentalist sects of normal bureaucratic “denominations”). Immanent gods, on the contrary, have sex, including incest, spit, laugh, compete for attention of gods and humans of the opposite sex, and in general, are just like you and me, local, lustful, contrite (from time to time), and goofy. I find, personally, transcendent gods a bit prudish—one would not want to go to any heaven whose rules were dictated by such asexual afun-ual snobby male power-mongers. If beer, sex, fun, jokes, irreverence is forbidden and one has to spend all da..m day telling some emotionally fragile god how central in the universe he (not she) is, then hell is for me.
deepwater - December 29, 2010 at 12:54 am
Dr. Barash, are you happy now? You must be quite amused sitting there in your office….I bet you can’t stop smiling.
profurban - December 29, 2010 at 8:07 am
I hope he is laughing. It is distressing to see a member of one sect correct the inference of someone they believe is a member of another sect. The question, perhaps is addressable from the perspective of sociology, or anthropology – I would recommend all authors substitute the words monotheism and polytheism with something else; make it democrate and republican, or liberal or conservative, or environmentalist and (hmmm, what’s the opposite?)– any dichotomy that fits your emotional triggers – and then re-read your answer. See if your argument suddenly falls apart. You’ll have to change other words of course (religion to politics, etc.).
Somewhere along the line perhaps our species evolved the ability to utilize low-probability correlations as predictors and found this useful in certain circumstances. We also evolved a tendency towards certain social patterns. The research in psychology is clear – identify with a group and you will demonize the other groups (particularly if you are powerful) and, though this may be masked in language, it is universal. Identification with religion and culture is likely to lead to the end of the species.
As an aside, one doesn’t need religion to identify with the golden rule, or any set of rules, and there is clearly no historical evidence that this identification leads to less violence, discrimination, etc.
dpbarash - December 29, 2010 at 9:12 am
I’m definitely not laughing, but grateful for some of the more thoughtful comments (discounting those that simply state – not surprisingly – that monotheism is an advance simply because there is one god: Period – Case closed). I find myself wondering if one possible intellectual benefit of monotheism over polytheism is that it facilitates a separation – assuming that’s somehow a good thing – between the material world and the world of “spirit.” But I keep coming back to the proposition that monotheism is considered – by monotheists – to be an “advance” in the same way that an intelligent grasshopper would consider six legs to be progress, while an octopus would argue for eight.
bizdean - December 29, 2010 at 9:17 am
Despite the predictable pieties and sniping, this has been (from my perspective) an enlightening dialog. Thanks all!
mbelvadi - December 29, 2010 at 10:23 am
Dr. Barash, to return to your original question, which was: ‘Is there any reason to consider that unlike the compass or algebra, there is any sense in which monotheism can objectively be seen as an step forward over, say, polytheism (the belief in many gods) or pantheism (that the world itself is imbued with the divine)?”
The key word being “objectively”, I would say the answer is “no”, the opinions of your middle school teachers notwithstanding. Perhaps you should try asking this same question in a forum on the TimesOfIndia website or someplace similar, and see what kinds of thoughtful, philosophically sophisticated responses you can get from educated non-monotheists.
Most of the other respondents to this article imagine polytheism as one of two systems: the jealous human-like passions of the ancient Greek/Roman gods, or “a god in every tree that does what it wants” animism. Hinduism, on the other hand, offers a much more complex theology in which the deities themselves are restricted by a set of natural laws that even they can’t violate, namely dharma, karma, and the cycle of reincarnation. It’s well known that Christians have utterly failed to convert Hindus en masse over the centuries because, unlike the other religions that Christians encountered, Hinduism has a very complex and well-developed metaphysical system that can more than stand up to any claims Christians make for superior Truth, and a very long history of written scholarship of its own to back it up.
Actually, just as Catholicism has an apparently schizophrenic concept of Trinity-yet-monotheism, something similar exists in Hinduism, as the day-to-day practice of what appears to be rampant polytheism is undergirded with a “all gods are just aspects of the One” (or maybe “Three” depending on which Hindu branch they follow) theology that the casual Western observer wouldn’t know is there.
If your intent is to seriously explore the value of non-Mosaic beliefs, rather than just to rile up the readers of the CHE web site, I strongly urge you to find a serious Hindu scholar (not just some Christian-believing professor of religion who teaches a course in Hinduism), and have a nice, long metaphysical discussion with him/her.
sampressley - December 29, 2010 at 10:52 am
Monotheism was a Civilizational Advance (just) Because.
This is a dangerous intellectual game that we play; hungry and afraid we search for meaning and help from a higher power; but (butt) fat and sassy we vomit as we mock those who profess to believe in the One God.
Reality is a Mother!
mimihutson - December 29, 2010 at 11:19 am
Dr. Barash- you say “I find myself wondering if one possible intellectual benefit of monotheism over polytheism is that it facilitates a separation – assuming that’s somehow a good thing – between the material world and the world of “spirit.”
That’s it- that’s the problem: Separation between “this” and “that,” between “you” and “me,” between “I” and “Thou.”
Monotheism may have been an advance in evolution (see Freud’s Moses and Monotheism)but it’s just that, a step on a continuum with no end.
There is no difference; no “other” no “material ” no “spirit.”
Blessings on the Blended, for we will never be extinct!
Who cares what we believe in- BELIEF is a human construct.
princeton67 - December 29, 2010 at 12:41 pm
…because it led to the demonization of the theory of evolution. Polytheistic societies would regard Darwin’s ideas as just another of the more than 120 cosmologies listed in Wikipedia.
But when it’s Yahweh or Adonai, and the accounts* of creation in Genesis, then believers start screaming.
And their attacks and evasions (Intelligent Design, Creationism, Creation Science) make people think and think.
*: conflicting, but no one seems to mind.
trendisnotdestiny - December 29, 2010 at 2:03 pm
ricardtaborgreen said it the best:
“If beer, sex, fun, jokes, irreverence is forbidden and one has to spend all da..m day telling some emotionally fragile god how central in the universe he (not she) is, then hell is for me.”
Although this sounds more like freshman year at Party U….
rsmulcahy - December 29, 2010 at 2:32 pm
Briannafarrete can split angel hairs all day long trying to show that the argument of “one true god” holds against the army of angels, cherubins, saints, and whatever other “creatures” that Catholics recognize as existing within the world but are neither deities or material beings. What a crock. My position is that most Catholics view religion as a form of a magic, they won’t admit it out loud, but why else do people evoke saints, angels, Mary, or whatever else is in the beastiary of the Catholic supernatural zoo. They aren’t seeking a personal relationship with god, they are hedging their bets and praying to anything that might help them manipulate the physical world to their advantage. And to me, that smacks of magic not deism. The trinity is a confusing mess no matter what the Council of Trent decided. And how is it that “Man” gets to use a ballot box to decide what god is or isn’t. The Catholic Church decided to eliminate the concept of purgatory recently. Excuse me, if lord god created purgatory, how is it that the Vatican gets to eliminate it by fiat? Was god consulted? Did they read the entrails of a goat? Just wondering how that went down.
Oh, my apologies, to finish Dr. Barash’s sentence: Monotheism was a civilizational advance because now we just have one god left to get rid of. Once that is done, hopefully humankind can make some significant social advances.
stinkcat - December 29, 2010 at 3:40 pm
“My position is that most Catholics view religion as a form of a magic, they won’t admit it out loud, but why else do people evoke saints, angels, Mary, or whatever else is in the beastiary of the Catholic supernatural zoo.”
You have no objective way of knowing what Catholics are up to, so you resort to mind reading? Let’s hope you don’t you don’t have a job teaching people for a living.
hypatia - December 29, 2010 at 9:32 pm
David Barash’s original question was an excellent one, and I’m grateful that he raised it. But note what he asked:
Is there “any sense in which monotheism can objectively be seen as a step forward over, say, polytheism (the belief in many gods) or pantheism (that the world itself is imbued with the divine)?”
Most of the discussion so far has compared monotheism with polytheism, but I’d like to see some discussion of pantheism. Just for background: I’m a former Christian; I lost my faith because I could no longer sustain it, given all the evidence against its truth. I want to suggest that monotheism is *in no way* a step forward over pantheism. Morally speaking, monotheism provides an ontology for hierarchy: God is hugely superior to his (pronoun used deliberately) creation, and “man” (modelled on God) is hugely superior to all non-human beings (and often also superior to woman). Pragmatically, monotheism encourages a view of the planet as transitory and disposable, to be used as we wish while we are alive, and to be left behind when we join God.
By contrast, pantheism does not institutionalize inequality; it rejects an ontological hierarchy that makes the supreme being far better than all of material reality. And it encourages us to recognize that if we harm the planet, or other animals, we harm the divine (and hence ourselves). I’m not a pantheist–but if I had to choose, I’d take it–and advocate for it–over monotheism.
zagros - December 30, 2010 at 5:52 am
People seem to forget that the “golden rule” was proposed by Confucius (no monotheist there!) five centuries before Christ plagiarized…
In any case, I beg to differ from everyone in determining whether there is any such objective thing as a “civilization advance” at all! In order to decide what is objectively a “civilization advance” we need to first decide and have everyone agree upon: (a) what is civilization and (b) what constitutes an advance.
Definition of civilization (from the dictionary):
Civilization: “a human society that has highly developed material and spiritual resources and a complex cultural, political, and legal organization; an advanced state in social development”
By this definition, monotheism is an advance simply because it has “highly developed spiritual resources”. However, this begs the question. Perhaps we need to go further. Hobbes considers the “state of nature” in which we are in a constant “state of war” to be that state predating the establishment of Leviathan (i.e., political instutitons). But political institutions are merely a mechanism for social control. Therefore, looking at everything through the social control lens, does monotheism represent an advancement in our ability to engineer social control (and thus advances civilization)? The answer is yes, just like everything else that Dr. Barash mentions!
You see, depending on our definition, we could see monotheism as an advance or we could see all sorts of things “objectively” defended by Dr. Barash as advances:
gunpowder: increased death and destruction of other societies so as to increase social control
compass: enabled us to find other societies so we can kill them off in order to ensure social control
printing: provides a much easier mechanism for social control (i.e. propoganda)
numeric calendar: allows us to more easily plan our death and destruction of others in our quest for social control
algebra: allows us to carry on higher math so that we can invent things like the atomic bomb, which furthers our quest for social control through the death and destruction of others
Hmm… from my perspective, everything is an extension of social control and religion is the ultimate in social control! Stop people from bickering over a multitude of gods and unite them under the one true god — oh, and if others object, kill them! Yes! Much easier to unite forces against other (erroneous) doctrines when we have the one true God!
Oh, and for the record, I’m a monotheist.
Yet, social control is not something that we would typically associate with advanced civilization, even though it is absolutely associated with it (where would Hitler be without the social control given to him by civilization? Just another angry man without any ability to do anything about it).
No, my problem with the original phrasing is that it sets up a dichotomy that DOES NOT EXIST. There is no “objective” truth in life. One only arrives at objective truth when one confirms that both sides agree on the premises–and one of those premises happens to be logic. Only then can one “objectively” argue for one position or another.
Perhaps instead, we should concentrate on “advancement” instead of civilization. Then we could consider advancement to be increased freedom for all. Uh oh. That’s a problem.
You see, I deny your initial premise that civilization has “advanced” at all because I would consider civilization a regression from the “perfect” state of anarchy.
Would you not agree that anarchy is the antithesis of civilization? Yet, just as the law and government (and all of civilization) depend on social control, anarchy is its polar opposite and the epitome of freedom. Freedom is secured only by anarchy and not be government. Thus all of civilization is a logical regression, not an advancement, from the state of nature (contra Hobbes).
Therefore, Dr. Barash, your argument may be logically valid but it is still unsound.
micmaranda - December 30, 2010 at 3:40 pm
It is interesting how people can feel free to discuss a topic they clearer have not research. First Judaism has angels, and the concept of saint developed from Judaism. In 2 Maccabees 15, Judas Maccabeus has a vision of the dead high priest praying for the Jewish people.
Although everyone has heard of the Golden Calf, few people seem to read beyond that passage. Moses built a bronze serpent that was used to cure snake bites and the arc of the covenant was built with two cherubim on top! So there was not a total banned on using graven images.
Contrary to popular belief Catholics do not worship saints or statues of saints. Also, when you discuss religion with Hindus you find that they do not worship statues, but the god it represents.
As for the Trinity, there are actually pagan gods that are seen as a trinity, i.e., one god in three forms. It is actually a sophisticated concept. The statement that the Trinity was developed to bring diverse Christian groups together is wrong.
As for monotheism, if there is one God then he is god of everyone. There is an associate of monotheism with the notion that the human race is one. There is more that can be written about this. There is actually something called the sociology of religion. But, why don’t you research the subject?
barbarapiper - December 30, 2010 at 5:19 pm
@micmaranda:
I’m not sure who you are arguing with, so I’ll just make a couple of simple points in reply.
First, social scientists try not to confuse official doctrine with actual practice. For example, a recent report noted that roughly 80% of American Catholic women use artificial birth control, and 78% of American Catholic women felt that the use of artificial birth control was not incompatible with being a good Catholic. If I write that Catholics believe that artificial birth control is acceptable, and use it at a rate comparable to members of other religions, I am being accurate, sociologically. The validity of this observation does not rest upon anything the Pope, or any official doctrine, says.
Similarly, the claim that the universe of Catholicism includes a wide variety of powerful beings – saints, angels, demons, etc – is not true or false because of doctrinal ideology, but can be measured against actual practice. You may not believe that Catholics worship saints – I’m not sure who here made such a claim – but I know from many years of research in Latin America and West Africa that saints, and even bits of saints housed in reliquaries, are objects of religious devotion, and have attributed to them the power to perform miracles, among other magical acts. And some posters here – and at least one of the ‘natives” – may believe that all supernatural beings are simply different avatars of the same ‘spirit’, but I’ve seen Catholics worship The Virgin Mary in ways that suggest that she is rightly regarded as an independent deity.
My reading of the sociology of religion – and I’ve published extensively in the anthropology of religion – suggests that these are not even mildly contested points. If you’re reading different sociologists, I’d appreciate the references.
luisosio - January 1, 2011 at 11:53 pm
Dr. Barash, did you get anywhere with your question?
I think a better evaluation is needed; and many touching on Catholisism and the Trinity (for example) don’t sound professional at all.
Had you asked: Confussion was a Civilizational Advance Because____
The whole would have sounded equally on mark.
luisosio - January 2, 2011 at 12:00 am
It’s Confusion and Catholicism. Sorry for the hasty misspelling.
lost_angeleno - January 3, 2011 at 1:44 am
I am always delighted by the debates over religion, because they parallel so perfectly the debates, on various blogs, etc., about other works of fantasy fiction. Really, the two fields should merge. The critical tools, and possible number of angels per pinhead, would increase exponentially.
viwap - January 3, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Regardless of the number of gods, religion for the most part has been–and will continue to be–a source of violence and deception. I’m disappointed to see that there are members of this forum who did not survive another negative force: indoctrination.
dmeagher - January 3, 2011 at 12:43 pm
One is the loneliest number that you’ll ever do
Two can be as bad as one
It’s the loneliest number since the number one
Three Dog Night
rangimarie - January 3, 2011 at 4:38 pm
s there “any sense in which monotheism can objectively be seen as a step forward over, say, polytheism (the belief in many gods) or pantheism (that the world itself is imbued with the divine)?”
Well, I would argue that monotheism, in theory anyway, can be seen as a step forward over polytheism and pantheism because it gives an intellectual assent to the super natural goodness in all people regardless of faith – a sense of justice, compassion, truthfulness, faithfulness and holiness. Such an intellectual assent gives us less to argue about and therefore, in theory anyway, fewer divisions. Further, Monotheism is capable of being understood pluralistically in many subtle and complex ways that allow for the infinite variations in human nature. The Trinity is a good example of this subtlety and complexity.
todddotjackson - January 4, 2011 at 9:11 am
I strongly suggest a text that will add to this discussion: Jan Assman’s “Moses the Egyptian.”
http://books.google.com/books?id=nJv0oyQ-9_AC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Assman+%22Moses+the+Egyptian%22&source=bl&ots=aUL4ejCHAq&sig=MZ0OKiTCobogbBvY5ASLHAYEi5Y&hl=en&ei=fiQjTYmFCoyisAPG8dGsCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CCAQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false
Assman makes a couple of distinctions that provide needed sophistication to any discussion of monotheism. Above all, that what typifies monotheism is NOT the belief in one God. The very discussion we’ve been having shows just how difficult such a thing is to maintain. Further, polytheism developed its own understanding of ultimately unity, whether The One of Neoplatonism, Amun in Egyptian religion, or Brahman in Hinduism, each existing quite happily with multitudes of other Gods.
No, for Assman what typifies monotheism is the anathematizing of all other Gods, foreign or domestic. With monotheism comes, not so much One God, as the novel invention of the False God. Such a thing was unthinkable in antiquity, which held one’s own local Gods as “translatable” to another’s, conferring tolerance btween religions. Accordingly, while antiquity had no lack of war, one would be hard-pressed to find wars motivated by religious dispute.
Such war is the hallmark of monotheism. Wherever it has existed, that existence required a bloodbath.
The holocaust committed by Christianity against the ancient Mediterranean polytheistic religion(s) is almost lost to history.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh0B71spVRk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plGQXccCDxM&feature=related
Also little known is the persecution of Hinduism by Islam:
http://koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/books/negaind/ch2.htm
The nature of monotheism is such that monotheist religions regularly consume not just polytheist Others, but themselves. I assume I needn’t dwell here on the slaughter of Christian by Christian, Muslim by Muslim.
luisosio - January 14, 2011 at 11:38 am
Sorry Dr. Barash, but after more than two weeks, I feel that you should cross out of Brainstorm the brain part, and reduce the storm to a drizzle.
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aephirah - May 18, 2012 at 6:10 pm
The last thing my Translation students worked on this semester was an excerpt from “La region mas transparente.” It provided both a challenge and a sense of accomplishment. We have lost a giant but he has left an impressive legacy.
bevo98 - May 21, 2012 at 8:22 am
What rich legacy he leaves not just of writing but, as this author recognizes, of being an important figure in Mexico and the world. We need more public intellectuals.