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Do We Need Philosophy?

August 15, 2010, 11:47 am

Two items are on my mind this Sunday morning, and I think they are connected in some way. The first is that my friend David Hull died last week. I wrote about him (although not by name) a month or two back, about his being in hospital and how it brought on a form of dementia, something that went when he returned home.  He was very frail when I visited in June and basically went downhill from there. He had pancreatic cancer and that develops quickly. He never, thank God, returned to hospital — he died at home, with friends there to care for him.

I wrote the last time about my fondness for him and my respect for him as a truly good person. Now I want to focus on his professional life, namely that of a philosopher, both teacher and scholar. He taught for nearly40 years, first at the University of Wisconsin at Milwaukee and then at Northwestern University in Chicago. He had a number of graduate students, although not, I think, a great number. Where his influence was felt was more in the philosophical community at large, particularly among the philosophers of science, and also significantly among certain groups of scientists.  

David wrote a great deal, especially in the early years, and a number of his writings were very influential.  This was particularly so with respect to systematics, the (biological) science of classification. In the 1970s, there was a huge debate among systematists about the right ways to proceed, with tension between the old guard who (quite frankly) tended to treat the whole process as something of an art as much as a science, and the young Turks who wanted to quantify and count and (increasingly, as computers came on board and allowed the crunching of huge amounts of data) make the whole process much more objective. David was right in the thick of things, and greatly respected, so much so that at one point he was president of both the major philosophy of science association and the major systematics association.

The point I want to make — and I haven’t even mentioned the huge amount that David gave to individuals, particularly junior people starting out, whose unpublished writings he would read willingly, always giving good advice — is that my friend had a good and worthwhile career. He was a professor of philosophy, proud to be one and rightly so.  

The second point on my mind is a suggestion made in a column this morning in The New York Times, by the chair of the department of religion at Columbia University in New York City. He is talking about an important issue, namely the staggering rise in cost of university education in the United States and how, if anything, it is going to get worse rather than better. The amount that is now owed by Columbia and New York University is truly staggering. It puts even the Ruses’ credit-card debts into perspective.  

One suggestion that he makes is to combine the philosophy departments at Columbia and NYU.  He writes that “it is absurd for Columbia and N.Y.U. to have competing philosophy departments at a time when there are few jobs for philosophy academics. Instead, they could cooperate by forming a joint graduate and undergraduate program, which would reduce costs by requiring fewer faculty members and a more modest physical presence, while at the same time increasing course choices for students.”  

Now, if you are in the trade, you would have to have the sweet spirit of a saint not to take a certain joy from this. Knowing some of the super-size egos in both of these institutions, I am sure that Sunday brunch is not being enjoyed today with quite the zest that is normal. And also it is worth pointing out that it is not so much the lack of jobs that is at issue, but the lack of permanent (tenured or tenure-track) jobs that is at stake.  There is a lot of work out there if you don’t mind a huge amount of driving and marking and so forth. (Part of the “so forth” being that you often don’t know until literally the morning a semester starts whether you will be in the classroom that day.)

Also there is the fact that if you keep downsizing, then God only knows what is going to happen to the country. I am still in a state of shock about a New York Times story earlier in the week about outsourcing law work to India. Apparently now major firms are getting cheaply paid Indian lawyers to do a lot of the routine work for them. This means that it is junior lawyers as well as junior philosophers who don’t have work. As Henry Ford pointed out, you can only take this sort of thing so far. If Americans don’t have good jobs, then they simply cannot afford to buy the products on sale, despite those products being produced cheaply abroad — even assuming that being “produced cheaply abroad” is going to be reflected in prices to the consumer and not simply profit for the firms involved.

Having said this, I also believe there is no question but that university costs are often now too high and still going up way too quickly. Although it is worth pointing out that a number of institutions (NYU is notorious) have been spending huge amounts to hire high-status profs and they themselves are basically to blame for the situation.  And it is still possible in the United States to get a good education at a lot of state institutions (including my own) at a far more reasonable price — in fact, in Florida, at a ludicrously reasonable price, this being a state that values Medicare a great deal more than higher education.

 Also, things do have to change. I am still feeling a bit sad from learning that the English grammar school I attended in the early 1950s, founded in the reign of Queen Mary in 1554, now no longer offers Latin. This is the first time in 450 years! It does, however, offer Spanish (as well as a host of other modern languages), which is a change from my day. I cannot honestly say that this is wrong. The more the English learn that the way to talk to foreigners is not by shouting at them in English baby language — a practice about which Dickens is very funny in Little Dorrit — the better off the world will be.

Things have to change in philosophical circles, too. Most departments now offer courses in environmental ethics — something unheard of in my youth — and a jolly good thing, too. Unfortunately, too much that does go on in philosophical circles is more akin to the medieval disputes about the numbers of angels on the head of a pin. I don’t mean that philosophy departments should teach only the “relevant” topics — “improving your reasoning,” “business ethics,” “bioethics,” and so forth — but that more than one distinguished (and not-so-very-distinguished) department could use a bit of a broom of change.

 But — and this brings me back around to the life and career of my friend David Hull — I do wonder where it will end and where it should end. I think that David’s life was truly worthwhile. But was he a bit like a lamplighter, someone who had a good career in his day but for which we no longer have need? Are we getting to the point where philosophy, if it is to be taught at all, could just be a subgroup within an English department? (Wouldn’t they just love that, with their obsession about Heidegger!) And if philosophy goes, what about classics and more? What about departments of religion?!  

Quite apart from the economic worries I expressed above, I cannot but feel that something will be lost if universities do just become glorified technical institutions, or business schools. Personally, I don’t think you can claim to be an educated person if you have never done any philosophy. With Socrates I agree that the unexamined life is not worth living, and unlike the average scientist or engineer in my experience (Richard Dawkins being at the top of my list), I don’t think you can do philosophy on your own after work in the pub. I think that knowing something of the great thinkers of the past is vital.  

But then don’t forget that I am only five years younger than was David Hull, and, like him, I have had a full-time career as a philosopher. Maybe you are just hearing the sad lament of another lamplighter.

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jcisneros - August 15, 2010 at 8:50 pm

It is a rather sad fact of life that with all of the emphasis on specialized programs in “money-making” programs such as Business (among others), that we seem to have lost our way. Specialized education is a fine thing, as long as we do not forget that graduating well-rounded students is the real purpose of the Bachelor’s degree. The task grows more difficult with high schools graduating functional illiterates and students ill-prepared for the rigors of higher education.The Liberal and Fine Arts are simply not sexy enough, and any field where the Bachelor’s degree does not offer instant financial benefits gets short shrift. We get university graduates with specialized knowledge that cannot write a coherent sentence, cannot understand ethical and moral dilemmas, cannot reason, and are unable to understand the importance of History.Much of my support work is in the Classics and Philosophy. These fields taught me to ask the right questions and helped me to see the importance of grammar and rhetoric. I would be less of a Historian without a grounding in the Classics.It seems that some administrators simply fail to see the importance, the need for well-rounded human beings to graduate from their institutions.Thank you for the thought-provoking piece, Dr. Ruse.~JC

luther_blissett - August 15, 2010 at 9:32 pm

I try to avoid ad hominem attacks, but reading Mark Taylor’s piece in the NYT irks me given his own academic career. This is a guy who made his name by jumping on the bandwagon of French theory, publishing several volumes of pastiche “theology” that was essentially a cut and paste of Derrida, Levinas, Merleu-Ponty, Jabes, Bataille, Foucault, Barthes, Husserl, Heidegger, Lyotard and a little Kierkegaard. Then, when Baudrillard’s star was rising in the US, he turned to a sort of media studies work that echoed Virilio and others. So in a time of boom, Taylor rose the top of the class by mimicking the fashionable discourses. And now in a time of bust, rather than fight for the liberal arts, he sides with the book-keepers, going after academic programs and not, say, life programs (all the baloney that the school pays for not directly related to education).

ccprofmo - August 16, 2010 at 7:51 am

I see this even MORE at work in my own institution (I teach Philosophy at a community college). Even though the vast majority of our students are students who intend to transfer to 4-year institutions, all the focus and money is aimed at work force development or career and tech ed. The sad thing is that students who finish these programs successfully still can barely read, write, or THINK critically.

snwiedmann - August 16, 2010 at 8:04 am

Prof. Ruse, if I interpret this entry correctly, seems to assume (or at least focus) on the role of philosophy departments solely in terms of turning out “professional” philosophers — those who go on to earn a Ph.D. in the field and then struggle to find “permanent” teaching positions. As such a “professional” philosopher, I think there are two problems that need to be faced: (1) graduate programs are still accepting far too many students given the (diminishing) dearth of tenure-track positions; (2) you don’t (or shouldn’t) teach philosophy only to those future-professionals. A former colleague of mine trained in literature was wont to say, “Philosophy trains you for nothing, but it prepares you for everything.” Too many people (not just our students) see college as a way to learn how to make a living. Good undergraduate philosophy courses ought to teach you how to live. If we “professional” philosophers would focus on the latter, we might find ourselves seen less as lamplighters.

jffoster - August 16, 2010 at 9:15 am

Conceptually, I join the group of “philosophy for everybody as a preparation for everything”. I had a lot of good courses back in my undergraduate days and Intro. to Philosophy was one of the better — and harder–ones. At 0730 hours on T, TH, S yet!. It got me to think about things I hadn’t thought of, and about things I had thought of in expanded and more disciplined ways. Taylor on the other hand, is in a nondisciplined “discipline” and, according to some other things he’s written I’ve read, favors breaking up disciplinary departments altogether. (His NYT article of yesterday does not include this.) So it’s interesting that he starts with wanting to combine Philosophy departments at Columbia and NYU, whereas one might consider whether his own department, and all such departments, of “Religion” or “Religious Studies” ought be scheduled for abolition. Structurally, Taylor may have at least some point. Some states certainly have too many Departments of _X_ and some, like Ohio, Arkansas, probably Louisiana, and maybe even California, have too many colleges. So let’s us then go further. Why is there both an NYU _and_ a Columbia. Arent they both on the same little ol’ island?

cwinton - August 16, 2010 at 10:42 am

It strikes me that those lamenting the extent to which Philosophy as a discipline has lost its place in the academy need to look in the mirror to see who is responsible. What seems to be missing from Philosophy as a discipline is an understanding of the processes that reshape existence, and most ironically that of Philosophy itself.

dmeagher - August 16, 2010 at 10:57 am

Dear Professor Ruse,Keep lighting those lamps, for all of us.Best WishesDM

_perplexed_ - August 16, 2010 at 11:37 am

One wonders what the NYT is thinking in publishing columns like Taylor’s…makes one wonder whether the Post would be sufficient…

11159995 - August 16, 2010 at 12:08 pm

One might follow the lead of Richard Rorty who, after publishing “Philosophy and the Mirror of Nature” (1979) for which I was his editor at Princeton, left the Philosophy Department there to become a general professor of humanities at Virginia because he believed that philosophy was a delusional enterprise. Mary Taylor, by the way, published some fine, traditional scholarly work on Kierkegaard with Princeton University Press before becoming enamored of the European avant-garde (as indeed Rorty did also in producing excellent analytic philosophy in many articles before taking his European plunge, much to the bemusement of his Princeton analytic colleagues). As for myself, I was an undergraduate philosophy major at Princeton and spent two years in graduate school, at Columbia and Princeton, before entering the world of academic publishing–for which, as it turns out, my philosophical training was a wonderful and very useful background for me as both copyeditor and acquiring editor. One does not need to be a “professional” philosopher to benefit greatly from a philosophy education.—Sandy Thatcher

dank48 - August 16, 2010 at 3:38 pm

So the head of the department of religion at Columbia proposes that the philosophy departments at Columbia and NYU be merged. Well. I don’t know; perhaps that would be a good idea. It would be interesting to have Mr. Taylor’s views on a proposal to combine the Columbia and NYU departments of religion.

11237082 - August 16, 2010 at 4:01 pm

Anyone who questions whether philosophy is an essential discipline should play close attention to American jurisprudence. The shambles that the Supreme Court has made of the First Amendment by its viewpoint theory illustrates how bad epistemology can have real consequences. (Sit on the belly of the Chac Mool and ponder whether proselytization is but speech with a religious viewpoint and sacrifice but an expression of obeisance.)

rbannist - August 16, 2010 at 4:01 pm

Recent attacks on Liberal Arts education wanting to find ways to quantify achievement, document programs in terms of their vocational skill value, and perhaps go as far as to have exams resembling the nurse’s or CPA exams for all majors demonstrate how clearly post-secondary programs are completely missing the boat on the value of a humanities based approach whose very essence depend on rigorous involvement in philosophy.Bean counters and those who think the human mind should function like an uber-computer see philosophy, classical literature, and other such endeavors a waist of resources since how can one’s understanding of Aristotle, Kant, Hegal, Nietzsche, or existentialists translate into quantifiable vocational assets?DUH!!! Let’s look at the status quo. Does not so much of what’s going on in academia, politics, and business cry out for a sound grounding in ethics, the ability to understand and apply fundemental principles of logic, and further to be able to examine rhetoric and marketing, break it down to its underlying assumptions to get at the real heart of the matter? Too much emphasis on simply acquiring a sound knowledge base and developing a myriad of computional and organizational skills guarantees little more than a bunch of well educated fools.Does not today’s world demand us to be able to think outside of the box, be able to adapt and change quickly and to see how all things interrelate?For some debating the finer points of Plato’s Republic might seem hard to grasp, but the more we advance into the so-called information society, without a firm grasp of philosophy, what are we accomplishing?

vpostrel - August 16, 2010 at 4:04 pm

The only way Taylor’s prescription makes economic sense is if you assume the job of philosophy departments is to turn out new Ph.D.s, thereby increasing the supply of philosophers. Otherwise, the lack of jobs would suggest an opportunity to expand philosophy departments by hiring cheap professors and offering more courses to undergraduates.

unusedusername - August 16, 2010 at 4:29 pm

I too would mourn the death of philosophy departments. Pretty much alone in the humanities, it relies strictly on reasoned argument and struggles to find truth. For those who think of it as useless, remember that most of today’s social sciences were outgrowths of philosophy. Philosophy gets short shrift because once philosophers figure out the right questions to ask, and how to test for the answers, it stops being called philosophy and starts being called physics, economics, and psychology.That being said, it is partially the fault of philosophy professors themselves. Postmodernism has so greatly infected the field, that modern philosophers find themselves having little to say. If your position is, “There is no such thing as truth.”, don’t be surprized when people take your advise and stop listening. Departments need more Popper, Smith, and Plato, and less Wittgenstein, Foucalt, and Marx.

11319762 - August 16, 2010 at 5:04 pm

Unusedusername has made an important point. what we call the social sciences today used to be housed in philosophy departments. Economics, psychology, sociology, anthropology and more all were originally the realm of philosophers. The age of specialization has snipped those aeras of interest off and sent them down the corridor to their own sets of offices.The important question for philosophy departments today is, what will philosophers focus on next that becomes so important as to require its own separation and establishment as a separate discipline?

bioemeritus - August 16, 2010 at 5:27 pm

“Are we getting to the point where philosophy, if it is to be taught at all, could just be a subgroup within an English department? ” No, of course not. As E. O. Wilson suggested in Consilience, all of the humanities are simply a branch of Biology! Your new home is waiting.

maxbini - August 16, 2010 at 9:46 pm

Thank you Professor Ruse for telling us about your friend Professor Hull – the dementia in hospital and dying at home amongst family and friends sentiments ring true for my experience with my father.At unusedusername #14: “Truth” needs to be questioned and not taken for granted no matter what perspective is taken on it and that is part of what it means to do philosophy – the enemy is dogmatism no matter what form it takes. For what it is worth, I do agree with the rest of your comments and would add that philosophers (and that is meant to include all philosophically inclined scholars no matter which discipline they are aligned to) do have a lot of responsibility and thus a lot to answer for, whether they be modernists or postmodernists, analytic or “European.” And by the way, the ancient Greeks did not distinguish the sciences and mathematics from philosophy either – Philia Sophia. The search for knowledge is an ethical journey and cannot be taken alone.

rhughes43 - August 16, 2010 at 10:55 pm

My experience has been that instead of developing a philosophy of life, it is better to develop a life of philosophy. My study of philosophy in formal graduate departments, along with study in English literature, prepared me to adapt to changing circumstances (I intended to become a college professor) and “reinvent” myself as a foundation executive. Courses in philosophical method, along with courses in “contextual” analysis of great works of literature, helped to broaden both my analytical and interpretive (better framed as ‘political’) skills in uncovering a worthwhile skein of thought in a grant proposal or in a meandering discussion with advocates who want to change the world In the land of the blind, the one-eyed will be King. Humans are destined to become algorithm-determined and defined machines. If you have sound philosophical and humanistic training, you might possibly escape this fate — and of course become irrelevant. Or because of your analytical skills, you could possibly end up writing the transformative code yourself. Oh joy.

macdonagh - August 18, 2010 at 7:31 am

I have found it helpful to frame the argument more in terms of active or passive learning. It’s not enough simply to assert that philosophy teaches a student this skill or gives them that hinterland: we have to spell it out and consistently make it happen. Leaving it to chance or blaming the student for failing to pull out the lessons for themselves is not good, in philosophy or an other kind of teaching.

betterschools - August 20, 2010 at 6:58 pm

For those of us who have experienced the mystery, pain, and joy of a philosophically centered education, no further words are necessary. For those who have not had such experiences, no words are likely to be helpful. While the above thoughts no doubt resonate with many, I can express the same sentiment, with equal conviction, with respect to my experiences as a pilot.Leaving the center of my universe behind, I recognize that ‘critical thinking’ is perhaps the single product of an education in philosophy that is essential to becoming an enlightened citizen. Unfortunately for those of us who instruct in philosophy, there are other ways to become proficient in critical thinking. As for the other joys of philosophy, I think it is a tad arrogant for us to think that one is materially impoverished for not having experienced them. We feel that way, indeed, but others need not.