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The Cost of Education

January 1, 2011, 12:01 pm

Le Tricheur à l’as de carreau,
Georges de La Tour (1593-1692)

Source: Wikimedia Commons

This picture  has always amused me. The rube at right is blissfully ignorant, while the puzzled woman at center is clearly suspicious. Perhaps her maid is being directed to look into things, impolite thought it might be to have someone in a position to see a player’s legitimate cards. This paintinge is popular because it portrays a good idea. Poker players will have seen many variations, including dogs playing cards. At least two versions exist, each with different behind-the-back cards.

The picture is also a good metaphor for what is going on at public research universities. When questions are asked about why tuition is rising so much faster than inflation, various opaque answers are given. The equation that seems to be in use for setting tuition is of the form:

[$Asked For] – [$We Get] = Tuition Increase

And the justification used to the state legislature is from an old hair-coloring advertisement: “Because I’m worth it.”

This is a short and deliberately oversimplified version of the argument. The situation is reasonably well covered – on both sides – by the books of Christopher Newfield, Unmaking the Public University, and Jonathan Cole, The Great American University.

I’d like to suggest a simple general strategy for helping to clarify matters.

First, establish the cost of education for one undergraduate for one year at the public research university. Of course this will lead to debate about how the figure is calculated, but the result will be that a lot of cards will have to finally be put on the table. Now if the educational cost is less than the tuition revenue and the state contribution, then tuition may not be increased more than the rate of inflation.

Second, establish the unreimbursed costs of research. My educated guess is that it is approximately 30 percent of the amount of external grants – including overhead – and may in fact be more. Where does the money come from to pay for this deficit?

Now even Republicans seem to buy the idea that research is a good thing. Their reasons for thinking so may not be mine, but we are in agreement on this point. So part of the justification for funding from state legislatures should be an explicit acknowledgment that research costs the institution money. Instead of going to the legislature and arguing that we are the greatest because we bring in so much external funding, we should admit that we need additional funds to support external grants and ask for it explicitly.

What I am asking for here is transparency. And the response – at least at my place – is: “We are not trying to hide the ball.” “Everything in our budget is available to the public.”

That’s not good enough. If public research universities expect to be taken seriously when asking for state support, they are going to have to do a much better job at linking the dollars that come in to the educational and research costs of the institution.

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wbgleason - January 1, 2011 at 4:08 pm

Hmmm…

I’m not sure the title above accurately reflects the post, since I don’t really explain how to calculate the cost of education.

The original title was: Cost of Research? Cost of Education? Let’s put all the cards on the table.

Management, to whom I’ve written, seems to be out until the third.

Ciao and Happy New Year,

Bill Gleason

michaelmcnabb - January 1, 2011 at 6:11 pm

For a specific application of Professor Gleason’s analysis, see On The Hidden Cost of Research at http://ptable.blogspot.com/2010/12/on-hidden-cost-of-research-michael.html#links.

Michael W. McNabb
Attorney at Law

pocvecem - January 2, 2011 at 3:22 am

Happy New Year, Bill.

I see one potential problem with your plan even though I strongly believe that academe ought to practice the greater transparency you suggest.

Regardless of political persuasion, I haven’t seen “research” (as a generic concept) being looked down upon by much of anyone in educated circles. The problem with going to the legislature is that it would give politicians a green light to publicly ask what research they would be funding (and then possibly to appropriate funds to the politically popular work). And what would happen to research programs if they were suddenly beholden to the need to obtain financial support from a state legislature?

Although I have regularly expressed a disdain for political advocacy as “research” as it often exists in the MLA disciplines and a few other places on campus, I don’t see a state legislature’s budgetary and PR processes having less undesirable results. I doubt that there are many state legislatures that would smile on “emancipatory” or “critical” work (and I would not be sad to see any of it go out the window), but the end does not justify the means. Of course, one might also ask whether humanities scholarship has any value if it largely remains hidden from the public…

You may also be able to tell that I see this issue as less problematic for the sciences. If you know of a way to get around “the power to defund is the power to destroy,” I’d love to read it.

wbgleason - January 2, 2011 at 9:45 am

Pocvecem-

Not to beg off, but you are asking some questions that would require quite lengthy answers. I tried to keep the matter general, but of course I was thinking of the situation at my own institution.

I agree that the power to fund/defund is the power to destroy. Thus my hope that an agreement might be based on a specific percentage of revenue generated by outside grants. This idea was not developed in the short post above. Some of us are fortunate enough to live in a state where the legislature is fairly tolerant of what goes on at the university – except for what they see as excessive tuition and apparent blackmail if the university doesn’t get what it wants.

It is in everyone’s best interest to be transparent about educational and research costs. And a data dump does not fulfil this requirement.

And a Happy New Year to you!

drj50 - January 3, 2011 at 9:39 am

The author proposes limiting increases in tuition to “inflation,” but there is no single thing that is “inflation.” Different products and services change costs at different rates, and the things colleges have to buy (e.g., energy, technology, library materials, salaries) have to buy differ from those that consumers buy (e.g., food, clothing, housing). In fact, the costs incurred by colleges regularly exceed increases in “inflation” as measured by the Consumer Price Index (CPI) and officials seeking to limit tuition increases to the CPI are thoughtlessly starving schools of resources. See the differences between the CPI and HEPI (Higher Education Price Index) at http://www.commonfund.org/CommonfundInstitute/HEPI/Pages/HEPIvsCPI.aspx.

wbgleason - January 3, 2011 at 11:41 am

drj50-

Although I did not develop the argument fully, and this was stated, a more careful reading will indicate that your point is covered.

I am asking that educational expenses be accounted for, which include the things you’ve mentioned, and that only if these are accounted for and the states contribution taken into account may an increase be sought – which would be at the CPI because it would be “extra” money.

Let’s not get mired down in a discussion and special pleading over the increase in technology costs. A lot of this is unnecessary… Consumers don’t pay for energy? Library costs? For the purchase of exactly what? Is any of this expense perhaps related to the research half of the university?

Salaries? Look at the situation with the Berkeley admin right now. I say no more.

cwinton - January 3, 2011 at 12:46 pm

I think honest accounting is an oxymoron. Many of us would like more transparency, but need to remember we are dealing with masters of obfuscation. Even with complete access we are still dependent on someone to provide an interpretation of what we are looking at and there’s the rub. Even the most open interpretation will get in trouble with intangibles (e.g., claims of economic impact) and all too often those tasked with the interpretation are saddled with their own biases and (possibly self-serving) reasons for being less than forthcoming. How is one to tell? I think we have already reached the point where we have imposed enough bureaucracy on higher education that for every $5 we spend, $4 is spent on trying to assure the remaining $1 is spent productively. Research is a particularly tricky area, since by its very nature research is an inefficient process, and inefficiency is viewed as waste from a strict accounting standpoint.

wbgleason - January 3, 2011 at 1:18 pm

Although I share your concerns, cwinton, I don’t take as dim a view of the situation as you do.

My whole point in asking that justification be made explicit for educational costs is to “smoke the rascals out.” Right now they do a data dump which is inscrutable to ordinary mortals. We can fight later about the interpretation but show us some numbers linked explicitly to educational costs. How much does it cost to educate one undergrad for one year and where does that number come from?

On the research side, there is hope. The point is not that research is inefficient, but that the money brought in – including overhead – does not cover expenses. Even some administrators are finally admitting this because the false claims of the past – that external funds will cover expenses – has explode in their faces. At our place, the vp for research has finally made clear to the rest of the admin that these uncovered costs are AT LEAST 25% of the externally generated funds. I consider it progress that this admission is finally being made. Next the question is: Where exactly do the funds come from to cover these costs?

Progress is being made. Don’t give up.

Bill Gleason

drj50 - January 3, 2011 at 1:45 pm

@wbgleason:
I have read your piece again twice and see no qualification of the expressions “rising so much faster than inflation” and “more than the rate of inflation.”

When you write “if the educational cost is less than the tuition revenue and the state contribution, then tuition may not be increased more than the rate of inflation,” it appears that the CPI is the cap on increases in revenue, even though the CPI measures the change in price of different things than university’s buy. Yes, consumers also buy energy, but it is a smaller percentage of household expenses than of college expenses, so that increased energy costs have a different effect on college costs than on consumer costs.

An analogy: last year there was concern about the lack of a cost-of-living increase for seniors on Social Security. Published reports noted that, while inflation as measured by CPI was flat, many seniors faced much higher costs of living due to increases in the prices for prescription drugs, a small part of the expenses incurred by most consumers, but a large part of the expenses incurred by seniors.

I was not particularly seeking to make a case re. technology costs, although schools do incur technology costs that consumers don’t (try registering 10,000 students for classes on a single laptop). The largest costs that colleges face are salaries and benefits, costs that families do not pay directly. A thoughtful analysis in the Chronicle (http://chronicle.com/article/Colleges-Are-Too-Bloated-/47958/) noted that college costs have increased at about the same rate as other sectors that depend on employing educated professionals. (I am here referring to operational expenses that do not include capital projects — buildings — that usually have separate funding streams and are not typically funded by tuition payments.)

For this reason, a better “limiting factor” than the CPI might be earnings growth. This would tend to keep salaries of university faculty and staff in keeping with those of the public. In addition, the concern so often expressed about tuition is affordability — for that, the appropriate measure is not the CPI but growth in family income.

I am not opposed to the proposal that schools separate educational and research expenditures. (Actually, some of this data is available in various forms already, e.g., IPEDS data.) But I work at a public university with a teaching, not a research mission and my school is being badly squeezed to provide core functions, not because resources are being devoured by research, but because state leaders (including those who set tuition) have chosen the wrong yardstick for setting tuition rates.

We face serious issues with regard to educational funding in this country. However, we will not develop adequate means to address these if we choose the wrong benchmarks by which to evaluate progress and fund public higher education. Good answers always require good assumptions and good data.

wbgleason - January 3, 2011 at 2:13 pm

drj50-

I am in sympathy with your points. But I am trying to use the KISS principle here. And the long range goal is to make the linkage between research and teaching costs so that the public knows where the money is going and why support for higher ed is necessary and not a rip-off. At our place, the claim has been made, without evidence – that the cost of undergraduate education is 80% met by tuition. Given that the state’s contribution to the university is far more than the remaining 20% why does tuition need to be raised? I think this is a reasonable question that we need to be prepared to answer.

And I still don’t understand why you are so hung up on how to calculate future costs for budgetary purposes. For example, if energy costs are in the budget, what is the problem in stating that a reasonable estimate of energy costs next year is x, based on the following assumptions? Why would this have to be linked to the CPI, the XYZ, or the PQRS?

Also, please note that my discussion was explicitly about “public research universities.” I understand your plight and that of my colleagues in Minnesota who are in MNSCu schools. Here the discussion of research costs is essentially irrelevant. Note, however that there are faculty at MNScu schools doing serious research, including in the sciences, but the scale is different.

How do you propose to explain to the public why you should get the funding that you think you deserve? I really don’t want to continue unproductively arguing about how to measure inflation…

drj50 - January 3, 2011 at 4:03 pm

@wbgleason: How would I explain funding needs to the public?
I would also KISS — explain proposed increases in terms of the 4-5 principal drivers of expenses the school faces: salaries, benefit costs, energy, etc. I would add costs related to increased enrollment, additional services (e.g., mental health services, remedial education), and increased external mandates. I would also report on results of initiatives to reduce costs.
However, when the public already believes that schools cost too much (“rising much more than inflation”), one must attempt to justify not only increases, but the baseline. That much harder to do. One reason is that commentators so often take shots at those “extravagant” recreation centers (never mind that those were funded, not from tuition, but student fee increases that students themselves approved) and residence halls (never mind that students vote with their feet for apartment-style housing).
One way is to fight the impression that cost increases over the past couple of decades has been unreasonable — that’s why the measure of inflation matters. We also can and should document student success with objective measures of student learning, job placement, etc. But (of course) that does not mean that it can’t be done for less and there’s no way to tie a specific expenditure to specific learning (why can’t your students can get by with the microscopes you have?). But the explanation won’t be simple and neither the public nor government officials are interested in the details. There appears to be no conceivable evidence that would contradict their unshakeable belief that schools are full of fat and waste. And the more people hear that the inaccurate assertion that “costs have far outpaced inflation,” the more rigidly they hold that belief.

drj50 - January 3, 2011 at 4:10 pm

@wbgleason:
Practical example: if salary and benefits for a school’s unionized faculty and staff are 75% of the school’s budget, their multi-year contracts call for a 5% increase, and the Board limits tuition increase to CPI of 3%, the school already faces a real 0.75% reduction in overall resources.

wbgleason - January 3, 2011 at 5:22 pm

I’m sorry, drj50. I can see that you are frustrated, but if you read what you have written I don’t think it is going to have the desired effect on the people from whom you need the money. Why do you resist putting a figure on the educational cost and explaining where it comes from?

I don’t know how your specific institution works, but at our place, the public universities and colleges put in a budget request to the state legislature. This includes mandated – if unionized – increases in salaries as well as the other expenses. So far NO ONE has put a limit on what can be asked for as far as tuition increases. But there is great unhappiness if tuition increases – greater than the inflation increase – is asked for. This is a simple, inescapable, fact. And you can argue until the cows come home that this isn’t fair because our costs have actually increased more than inflation and it will have absolutely no effect.

So, and this is the last time I’m going to say it, why not lay out what the actual costs are with projected – and justified – increases in setting budgets? Why not do this and say: If you give us the requested and justified budget for educational expenses, the tuition increase will be x%. If our budget for educational expenses is cut by y%, then we will have to increase the budget by z% in order to cover our costs. Alternatively, we will have to cut enrollment.

And please don’t muddy the water with issues of microscopes and rec centers. I’m sorry, but in trying to get more money from the public – and this is my goal – these kinds of arguments are, I’m afraid, irrelevant. They’ve been tried for years and years at our place and are not working.

Just because you are right, doesn’t mean folks are going to hand over the money. And it is a lot of money. A lot more care is now required at the justification stage. The current appeal for additional funding – at most places – seems to the public to be the old L’Oreal ad: “Because I am worth it.”

We have to do better.

Best. Bill Gleason

wbgleason - January 3, 2011 at 5:28 pm

correction:

we will have to increase the budget by z% ->

we will have to increase tuition by z%

edonchin - January 3, 2011 at 9:10 pm

The line drawn between “education” and “research” is deeply ignorant of the realities of first class research universities. Right now there are at least 10 undergraduates gaining research experience in my lab. This has been true throughout the 4 decades of my life as a tenured professor. It is also true of the labs of most my faculty colleagues. Had we not had top quality research programs the students would not have had access to these critical educational experiences.

This is not all….Students who are fortunate enough to attend a major research university are taught by active scholars who are at the cutting edge of their fields. Thus, the research enterprise on campus is not parallel, and separate, from the instructional program, which Gleason presumably counts as “education”. The research enterprise is an integral part, indeed the very foundation, of the education we provide our students.

It is perfectly justified for the University to provide 25% of the cost of the research enterprise on campus. We are lucky that we can raise 75% of the cost from extra-mural sources.

wbgleason - January 4, 2011 at 7:59 am

edonchin-

I am aware of the benefits of undergraduate research at research universities. In fact, I have had undergrads in my lab for the entire 24 yr part of my career that has been spent in education.

You miss my point.

Special pleading is not going to work anymore. “It is perfectly justified for the University to provide 25% of the cost of the research enterprise…”

And where is that money to come from? Especially at a public research university?

drj50 - January 4, 2011 at 11:08 am

@wbgleason:

I am sorry that I gave the impression that I am frustrated. I’m not, although I believe that we need good data in order to make good decisions and I am disappointed when people who should know better (education reporters and people who work in higher education) frame our challenges using inappropriate metrics.

I am puzzled that you think that I “resist putting a figure on the educational cost and explaining where it comes from.” I wrote that “I am not opposed to the proposal that schools separate educational and research expenditures” and noted that some of this sort of information is already available (e.g., IPEDS, Delaware study) — and this is a good thing. When I wrote that we should “explain proposed increases in terms of the 4-5 principal drivers” I thought that I was agreeing that we should “lay out what the actual costs are with projected – and justified – increases in setting budgets.”

I agree that we cannot get by saying “because I’m worth it.” We cannot get away with claiming that what we do is ineffable and unmeasurable (that’s why I suggested one way to justify expenses would be measurable results in student learning, placement, etc.).

My concern was not with your larger point, but the narrower one, of the use of a metric (tuition increases dramatically outpace schools’ real costs) that serves to cement in the mind of the public and public officials schools have been profligate and simply need to reign in the fat and waste. A look at the deferred maintenance (for example) at my campus would suggest that perhaps we have already cut too close to the bone.

mbelvadi - January 4, 2011 at 12:40 pm

I’m not an accountant, but I can see at my own institution how marginal cost per undergraduate is not linear as enrollment grows. To take an easy example, you can look at classroom space. Up to a point, including “creative” scheduling, you can add an extra hundred students here and there for a marginal cost that only needs to take into account individual marginal usage. But then you hit the point where the classrooms are totally full. Now you simply have to build a new multi-million dollar building to add that next batch of 100 or more students to the enrollment, and incur the ongoing maintenance costs of that building. That last 100 students has a much larger marginal cost than the previous 100 did. Yet once you build that building, if it’s done well, it can serve to provide expansion room not just for those 100 but maybe the next 500 or even 1000 over the next several years. What does this mean for the kind of accounting-to-determine-fair-tuition describe in the OP?

wbgleason - January 4, 2011 at 1:10 pm

mbelvadi-

Please keep in mind the subject of the OP – large public research universities.

At steady state, the building problem – as far as classroom space – is incidental to the big picture. At our place the administration is now bragging about taking buildings off line. (That is adminspeak for tearing them down.)

An example:

At our place they recently tore down a (perfectly usable) science classroom building and replaced it with a building that actually has LESS classroom space. Now a large part of the building is paid for by the State of Minnesota. Hopefully it is more energy efficient than the last one. Net increase in cost to the institution: probably not much.

Having served a sentence on the classoom space utilization committee:

1) Classroom use is very inefficient. When I was a lad there were classes held on Saturday! This doesn’t happen anymore. All classes don’t have to be held on MTW between 10 am and 2 pm…

2) A pitifully small percent of space at a large research university is devoted to classrooms.

If you’ve got 25,000 undergrads – roughly – to factor building cost fluctuations into, I don’t think the hiccups of a new building will have much of an effect.

I realize that this analysis is not appropriate for all types of public higher ed. But that was not the intention of the original OP.

edonchin - January 6, 2011 at 11:07 am

Bill Gleason

My point above was that the 25% university expenditure on ‘research’ is a legitimate educational expense, to be covered either by the state or by tuition. My point was that our research enterprise is an integral component of our instructional program.

Let me note that I firmly believe that we are cheating the students when we use non-scholars as instructors because a student paying tuition in a Research University has the right to expect that all the instructors will be active scholars. So cutting costs by hiring adjuncts is a terrible policy.

The state, or the students, should bear the cost of this kind of education. If the state cuts the support the students have to pay.

wbgleason - January 6, 2011 at 11:22 am

Ed-

We seem to be going around in circles.

When I have a student doing research in my lab – for academic credit, which they sometimes do – that is a legitimate educational expense.

But “25% university expenditure on ‘research’ is a legitimate educational expense” is an entirely different matter.

This refers to unreimbursed expenses not covered by overhead from external research grants. To try to sweep this under the carpet as a legitimate educational expense is wrong and this failure to face reality is what is getting those of us at public research universities in trouble.

We have to explicitly admit these extra research costs and request funding for them from the state legislature.

I’m arguing that we have to put the cards on the table and not engage in subterfuge.

Best.

Bill

marktropolis - January 6, 2011 at 1:07 pm

Bill, you get points from me for trying. And you said you were going to!

I’d like to add something substantive – aside from the general “hey, don’t give up!” – but all I can think of is telling drj50 to go back and read your original post. And this is just between you and one guy (or gal). This is a great example of how these conversations can get derailed FAST in minutia.

Actually, I think what I can say to drj50 is this: we can argue about the metric(s) and the details later. But lets get *something* in the hopper.

marktropolis - January 7, 2011 at 2:49 pm

Bill, don’t know if you’ve looked at this data yet, but perhaps a step in the right direction? I don’t know and haven’t made the time to dig into the links…

http://www.tamus.edu/offices/budget-acct/reports/transparency/

wbgleason - January 7, 2011 at 4:06 pm

Thanks, I’ll have a look.

Depending on how they’ve done this, it might be useful. At our place they just do a data dump that is undecipherable. Even by our Chief Financial Officer, who admits that he does not know the answer to the question: How much does it cost to educate one undergrad for one year at the U of M?

Best. Bill Gleason

marktropolis - January 7, 2011 at 6:31 pm

I don’t know if you saw the press this effort got a few months back because they attempted to publish the “value” of individuals based on their use of research funds. I bring it up as that’s clearly one way you would want to balance out any public investment – if you can make the argument that $X invested in faculty research equals $XX in contributions (federal and/or private).

A Chronicle Innovations blogger, Richard Vedder, had a piece in the Austin Statesman yesterday (http://www.statesman.com/opinion/vedder-transparency-at-a-m-reveals-money-drain-1168484.html) in which he details the findings of one of his research assistants into this A&M data, something that he calls a “money drain.” The big chunk that he misses (and he even acknowledged it in the article) is that he is ignoring whatever external funding these superstars bring in. He went so far as to “examine the vita” of one of these professors, and while he pays close attention to how many journal articles he’s published, he doesn’t look at his research funding AT ALL. Which would probably torpedo his argument, but what do I know…

wbgleason - January 7, 2011 at 8:42 pm

Just looked at the Vedder paper, thanks.

Apparently he has just now retired.

This particular analysis is suspicious for reasons you allude to. How much of the large salaries of these folks is paid for out of grants? To claim that for one “class” of faculty the cost per student is $40,000 per student while with the other “class” of faculty it is $91 per student tells us very little about the instructional cost, overall, per student.

This is why a lot more careful analysis needs to be done in order to arrive at the actual educational cost per student for a year. Cherry-picking atypical numbers from both ends of the distribution seems intentionally misleading.

PLUS it is unfair to ascribe the whole salary for the high earners as being paid from tuition unless there is no contribution to salary from grants, which I doubt. Their salaries may also come in part from endowed chairs. No mention is made of these possible other sources of revenue. It is ASSUMED that all the money comes from tuition. I doubt it.

marktropolis - January 11, 2011 at 2:13 pm

Well, when it comes to Vedder, you do have to consider the source. In one of his blogs on CHE he revealed that he’s in agreement with Charles Murray in terms of restricting college enrollments.

It’s not just about cost with Vedder – although that is a big piece of the privatization agenda (he has been bankrolled by AEI for a while now). It’s more so about who *deserves* college.

sicetnon - July 15, 2011 at 10:13 am

“Me . . . elected for shop”? Good choice!

11182967 - July 15, 2011 at 11:20 am

I, too, took (wood) shop in 7th grade.  In the 1950′s the alternative was auto shop, but that’s what the hoods took–no place for a “square” (“nerd” and ”geek” not yet being common junior high parlance).  The girls all took home ec (the A in which provided the margin by which Lauralee Sherwood become valedictorian).  I’ve been pleased to see that in Athens, Ohio these days both girls and boys rotate through shop and whatever it is they call home ec–I prize the game a grandaughter made me when learning how to use a drill press.

But I take some issue with the author’s comment that one’s mind can roam free while one’s hands are painting or cutting a miter.  While painting, maybe, but years of DIY–bumps, bruises, hammered (finger) nails, a severed thumb tendon–have taught me the danger in letting the mind roam too free while using tools, especially power tools.  Indeed, one of the joys of this sort of work is that, done well, it requires focus and concentration, not only in the doing of the task but in the minding of the tools.  My mind is never more concentrated than when I’m working in the main breaker box, or cutting through a wall with a reciprocating saw.  Tasks like painting and sanding may be less dangerous, but inattention quickly leads to errors which must be corrected and can sometimes require that a job be started all over again.

For someone whose job offers few concrete results to contemplate–graduation, perhaps, though even that is marred by memories of those who started but did not finish–the great joy of doing it myself comes from the contemplation of the finished project (no matter the profanity along the way).  But there is pleasure and therapy, too, in the activity which precisely requires that my mind not roam free but concentrate on the doing of the task (quite literally) at hand.  Such concentration cleanses the mind of the impurities of work, the fears and frustrations, the ire and irritation which can otherwise linger long after the workday is over.  And when the task is done, when the door closes smoothly, the light switches on, the paint line is perfect, then the mind can roam free.

megane - July 15, 2011 at 1:59 pm

Excellent article. I chose the path less travelled – that being French in kindergarten and stuck with it all the way through to the completion of a French MA although I do wish I could build I coffee table – I really need one right now! French and 4 other languages have opened the gateway to the world for me and while I haven’t yet achieved that position in academia that I want (or any for that matter) I understand the importance of my craft and try daily to expand it. Language learning is so important to opening the door to the world and to all the different people within it. Together we can work on the world’s problems and I for one do not see language as a barrier but as an educational challenge.

dfreeze - July 15, 2011 at 3:36 pm

Reminds me of a quote I came across the other day:

“There are two types of education… One should teach us how to make a living, and the other how to live.” – John Adams

mbelvadi - July 16, 2011 at 7:00 am

I’m of the generation that did not offer girls the shop option. I sincerely hope that girls today genuinely have that choice now (genuine as opposed to intense social pressure not to choose it).  I have a ton of things needing doing around my house that I’m going to have to pay a handyman to do, for lack of those skills. 

socafish - July 18, 2011 at 9:34 am

In my day boys took shop, girls took typing. Now I (male) sit in front of a computer all day typing (slowly) with three fingers.

11182967 - July 18, 2011 at 10:32 am

Socafish:  At my high school boys took typing, too, which eventually saved me some money when I was able to type my own disseration–on a manual typewriter, no less.  But I’m wondering if that shop class you took had anything to do with the fact that you’re only typing with three fingers?

lizgibbons - July 18, 2011 at 12:56 pm

To those of you typing with three fingers and paying handymen–it’s never too late to learn. These things are NOT rocket science. I’m enormously grateful that my (professor) father insisted I learn typing (knowing that I intended to follow his footsteps in academia, he knew it would be cheaper to type my own dissertation), French (which enabled me to test out of the requirement in college), and how to use tools (love my cordless drill). He also made sure my brothers knew how to cook and sew (my oldest brother even mastered a sewing machine).  And, even though none of us were English majors, we all know enough to be appalled by “Me and one other kid…”. I love painting any house and apartment I’ve ever inhabited–it is a pleasure which is not immoral, illegal, fattening or addicive, but is, unlike most of what of what we do in academia, almost instant gratification. 

madfilosofer - July 20, 2011 at 9:16 pm

I took French and Shop, and they gave me typing for three years in the Junior High.  Last time I went to a French restaurant, I ordered the Chef for dessert.  I typed my application to college, and I became a “Shop Teacher.”  Industrial Arts, as we knew it, has all but disappeared from the state curricula because some elitist addle-brained misanthropes decided that everyone has a completely and higher functioning brain, ending the need for knowing how to use the hands (and the body) to successfully create useful products, whether for fun or profit.  Since it’s been decided that all the earth’s people will be button-pushers and computer geeks, we won’t need to depend on the more basic uses for our hands coupled with our brains, thus negating any real creativity, inventiveness, or just plain “fixing” things.  The talented hands of many in our population have now been relegated to the trash heap, and are now part of the vestigial morass to be found within.  If you are able, liusten once again to Zager and Evans sing “In the Year 2525″….I think you’ll get the picture.
 

Fernando Brito Rufino - August 4, 2011 at 10:00 am

Well put, man, well put…

cyirka - August 17, 2011 at 1:23 pm

“Me …elected for shop.”
I can only guess you are trying to be ironic:  the educated guy who took shop cans speak like the uneducated?
I would hope that at least in print, me, instead of I,.would not be used as the subject of a sentence