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Dos and Don'ts for the In-Person Interview

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Brian Taylor

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Brian Taylor

As search consultants, we frequently have the best seat in the house for the conversations that shape, and sometimes radically change, people's lives: job interviews.

Our focus here is on interviews for administrative appointments—not the top leadership jobs, but the more common ones: deans, general counsels, executive directors. The atmosphere in those interviews is always cordial but charged beyond belief. Members of the search committee have thoughtfully crafted questions, so as to ensure softballs, hardballs, theoreticals, and a sprinkling of feel-goods. The interview must take no longer than the prescribed time, cover roughly the same territory for each of the candidates, and help the committee arrive at an understanding of how to feel about each one.

We have watched perfectly reasonable candidates with terrific credentials and experience walk in like ambassadors from another world, offering a regal, modest hand wave to the assembled committee as they try to figure out whether to shake everyone's hand individually or just slip into the one vacant seat and meet their fate.

We are prevented by our roles from intervening on the candidates' behalf. Other than basic advice regarding how to prepare for the interview, we cannot possibly tell them everything they might need to know. Some candidates will discover many of the issues, criticisms, and triumphs the institution is facing; those with less initiative will not. You'd better believe that if we were in their shoes, we would learn as much as we possibly could about the place. No investigatory holds would be barred.

But what else do we, as search consultants, think job candidates should do in advance of the interview ritual?

Internal preparation. Aka headwork. Try to figure out in advance how interested you are in the job, and why. Your level of interest, or lack thereof, will become glaringly obvious, especially to those committee members who are not asking the questions and are observing you closely. They will watch you like a hawk for signs of ambivalence, which is probably not fatal early on, but can be if it carries over to the final interview.

Our preliminary conversations often weed out people who are just kicking tires, but sometimes they slip through because they are really well qualified and the employer is flattered by their apparent interest.

Here are some of the mental calculations you should be making at this stage: Think about the changes the job would require in your personal life, and whether everyone in your household would be on board with a move.

You would be surprised by the number of candidates who secretly interview for jobs hundreds of miles from where they live when their kids are juniors in high school. They suddenly remember, once they become finalists, that their son Horace, the tennis ace who might get a scholarship if he can sustain his athletics and academic record during his senior year, might not want to move. Did Horace just appear on the scene wielding a golden tennis racket, or might the candidate have known about him for 16 or 17 years?

If candidates don't have the courage to discuss tough stuff with their families, how can they be expected to deal with tough stuff on the job?

Then there is the job that would not require relocation but would involve logistical challenges. Two-hour commutes are fine several times a month, but most people become unglued with a steady diet of NPR. And what about the after-hours committee meetings? What about the required professional conferences? How will all of that play at home?

It's not just personal issues you have to consider. What about the new professional skills you will need to master if you land the job? You have never dealt with budgets before; just thinking about them gives you hives. What made you think you could address the state Legislature with graphs, flow charts, and 25-year debt projections? Sit and think: "I want my career challenges to grow with time, but am I really ready for this one? At this time?"

It is likely you will run into people on the hiring committee again. The judgments they make about your candidacy and your readiness for the job will stay fixed in their minds. You might grow and change, but their impression of you will remain fixed until they acquire new information about you.

External preparation. When people haven't been on the job market recently, they relax. They may forget that they haven't interviewed in five years. They haven't put on that navy pinstripe suit in a while. Does it still fit? What about the shoes?

Take the time to spruce yourself up. If your clothes don't fit, get them altered or buy some new ones. Now is not the time to arrive with your shirt creeping out of the waistband, buttons pulling, or wrinkles and stains on your dress. Committee members will notice, no matter how robust your presentation.

It doesn't take much to make a negative impression. One candidate arrived late, breathless and flustered. Her cab driver had feigned familiarity with the destination, only to admit that he was lost and clueless about how to find his way. She was forced to set off on foot—in heels. She eventually made it, but the fiasco could have been avoided had she used the driver we recommended. Another candidate arrived on St. Patrick's Day sporting a green suit, shirt, tie, hankie, and socks.

Substantive preparation. No matter how hard you prepare, you will seldom know more than the internal candidates do. They have an ear to the ground, they are privy to gossip that never makes the blogs (which you should read, by the way, both general academic blogs and ones relating to the institution in question), and they have internal sources with whom they exchange information. Gossip is the coin of the realm. If you learn nothing else from this article, please remember that.

Searches at academic institutions are often leaky vessels. People blog about the finalist lists, they speculate, they gossip. They shouldn't, because spectacular candidates might well be willing to surface if they thought their identity would remain confidential. Occasionally even the most private of candidates can be lured into interviewing for a golden opportunity. They simply can't help themselves. Then, in their exuberance, after swearing the committee members and the consultants to secrecy, they pick up the phone, call a buddy at the hiring institution, reveal their candidacy, swear that colleague to secrecy, and then ask for the scoop about the place.

The minute they hang up the phone, the confidentiality is breached. Trust us, in the majority of cases, word escapes slowly, like a leak in a balloon. Sooner or later, the news reaches someone who will use it to entertain his friends at lunch. From then on, you are a dead duck.

Interestingly, that seldom happens in the private sector, where people seem to understand and respect a job candidate's need for privacy. They realize that jobs, promotions, entire careers are at stake. So next time, resist the temptation to share the news of your candidacy just to get some inside information. Do your own research, using Web sites, newspapers, and the myriad other sources available.

Don't look at just the specific circumstances of the college. Look into the trends that are affecting all of higher education. Strive to place the institution, and its future, within the context of those trends. How will the challenges faced by public institutions change in the next 10 years? How will private institutions be impacted?

Try to imagine the future, because the position you are interviewing for is likely to require that you be an active participant in its shaping. The more broadly you educate yourself about the issues on the horizon, including the ever-present money issues, the more you will be able to contribute to the dialogue, and to the interviews, as committee members search for meaningful ways to interact with you.

We applaud those search-committeemembers who struggle to get it right, who put countless hours into the selection of candidates, who use all their antennae to help them understand the humans in front of them, warts and all. We are mindful of the fellow who describes a beautiful woman in glowing terms, and the friend who wants to know more about the mole on her neck.

Unfortunately, sometimes that's how it feels inside a committee's deliberations. We all have a mole somewhere, and most of us are forgiven for it as we roll through life. But the search-committee process is, by its nature, a deliberate and careful one. The human under consideration should be prepared to be examined in full. The search committee has been given a task, will be judged on the results, and wants desperately to succeed.

Martha Fay Africa is a partner at Major, Lindsey & Africa, a large legal-search firm, and was a placement director at Boalt Hall School of Law. Steve John is a managing director at the firm and was a founding partner and senior executive search consultant with Oliver John Partners.

Comments

1. pokerphd - August 10, 2010 at 11:37 pm

And, for the most part, committees rule candidates out, not in. No sense pretending to be anybody but who you are. In the process, you might even convince your interviewers to do the same.

2. honore - August 11, 2010 at 09:55 am

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3. goldish - August 11, 2010 at 10:01 am

As a member of many search committees, I've seen candidates make the following mistakes:
1. Assume the institution is identical to one's present location, and "have all the answers" without appearing to understand the problems.
2. Fail to visualize oneself in the new role. Example: A candidate for a dean position who answers in terms of the candidate's own department or personal research, rather than exhibit understanding of the broader view needed.
3. Exhibit personal behavior that leaves people thinking, "If this is so irritating for half an hour, how could I put up with it every day?" Examples: A nervous laugh with every sentence; jewelry that continually jangles and bangs on the table.
4. Pretend to know more than one does. A particularly bad example:
"Prove" knowledge of the institution based on a news article quoting one side of a controversy without bothering to find out the entire context. (Yes, this really happened.)

4. powen58 - August 11, 2010 at 10:23 am

With regard to the intro scene our search consultants mentioned, I've been in the positon of entering a room and discovering a HUGE table filled with members of the committee. If there are more than 6 or 7 people, is it advisable to go around the table shaking everyone's hand? Aside from the awkward movement, there is the time factor. When you are told you have an hour but then, once in the room, you are told that now you have 45 minutes, including your questions for the committee, I am not sure shaking hands is advisable. What is your take, fellow interviewees/search committee members?

5. lee77 - August 11, 2010 at 11:22 am

RE: #5 - Ideally, you should be going into the room with someone connected with the search, who will indicate whether or not introductions will be done - e.g introduces you to the group. If you know there will be lots of people, ask the question before entering the room. If a admin assistant opens the door, announces you, steps back, and 'surprise', lots of people, smile at the group, take a seat, and see what happens. If no one introduces themselves, ask them to do so as they ask a question. Shaking hands across tables, or squeezing around people to get to people can be very awkward. Groups may choose to do introductions once everyone is seated.

6. profperf - August 11, 2010 at 02:47 pm

#3 Thanks for sharing your racism--it's good to be reminded that readers of CHE aren't immune to it.

7. rklinkenberg - August 11, 2010 at 04:01 pm

I would offer than the performance of search committees may be beyond your actual interview style and outcome. The knowledge that the final candidate has already been selected prior to the three "required" interviews cannot be overcome with a handshake.

8. sandler - August 11, 2010 at 04:20 pm

Often people who may be viewed as "outsiders' such as women, people of color, ethnic minorities, disabled, people for whom English is a second language, etc. may be asked more factual questions (What text book do you use for X course?") rather than "thinking" questions, such as "What do you see as the most important issues facing out field in the next ten years?"

It's helpful to think in advance the four or five (or more things you want the committee to know about yourself, so that you can be sure to weave them into the conversations even if not asked, so that, for example, when asked a factual question, such as one about the textbook you use, you can state the reason you use that book in such a way so that you can either directly or indirectly add the information you want to committee to know about you.

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10. clarkrob - August 12, 2010 at 08:04 am

For part of your pre-visit research knowing who will be in the s/c interview is important. This will help with the early introductions as you will have some background already researched. This will help one to relax a bit as you will not need to strain to remember every name.

11. cohelogin - August 12, 2010 at 11:48 am

#8, you are dead-on correct. I can't tell you how many whole days of interviews (search committee brunch, presidential one-on-one, departmental staff, tour, lunch with representative faculty, more search committee, executive committee, dinner with a dean)I've endured, only to find out (usually from the departmental staff) that an internal candidate has already been selected, even so far as to have already moved into the office. To find out I'm only there to fulfill a requirement, and face six more hours of glad-handing, plans and presentations really sucks at my soul.

The process makes it extremely difficult to patiently wait two to four weeks to be told what you already know. It's even more difficult to be gracious when the search committee then asks for a electronic copy of your presentation because it was "so awesome, and really shows a great understanding" of the institution.

12. honore - August 12, 2010 at 03:28 pm

cohelogin...tell them your graduate assistant will send them a copy when he returns from vacation, then NEVER send it...otherwise you will very likely see or hear your presentation in bits and pieces at conferences or in new programs presented/initiated by the "successful" candidate that very likely only had to give a 10 second presentation at the HR desk when he handed in his signed contract...seen it again and again in Madison, WI

13. studentsuccess10 - August 12, 2010 at 10:49 pm

Unfortunately, I have seen it all in my travels as a candidate for administrative positions in HE institutions. Everything from having an HR director ask a pointed question about a position I left because the boss had created a very negative atmosphere for all and thought that this was their job. What was the HR director doing on the screening committee and I hope she asked the same question of all the candidates. I recently traveled a long distance to interview for a senior level position at a large community college and I faced a president, a faculty assn. president and two staff/faculty members as the screening committee. How obvious does this have to be? The president seemed to have everything under control and I expect he/she had already picked out his next sycophant to hire asap. I'm ashamed of this type of behavior from our leaders in higher education but this is the norm. Good luck to all you folks who hope to get a fair shake. It may happen but it won't be because you caused it to happen. Self interest guides the hiring officer in all cases and nothing will change that.

14. rambo - August 12, 2010 at 11:08 pm

The only question to be asked, "Are you a left-wing liberal?"

15. honore - August 13, 2010 at 09:58 am

rambo, why ask the obvious?

16. jmpr9174 - August 17, 2010 at 10:44 pm

I think that it is sad that this article had to be written. If you are applying for a job like a deanship and you did not already know this, then you should never have applied. The fact that you might have made it to an interview is scary, to say the least. Although, I do have to admit, that I have seen candidates for deanships that had never done these three things. I once had one who said, "I am not sure that I am ready to give up my research for administration." That comment clearly selected him out of the pool.

I have to agree with several other comments above. I have been on five dean interviews in the last two years. On two of them, it was obvious that there was an internal candidate who was getting the job. I even asked the committee at the dinner before the interview took place how open the search was (I had interviewed at the same location several years before for a chair position; I knew the internal candidate and liked her). They professed that it was still very open. I was not surprised when they announced her.

I have also been on several where it was very clear that you would not want the job. There was open warfare between the faculty and the upper administration. At one, the faculty even overwhelmingly voted no confidence in the provost and president about a month after my interview. If they had come back with an offer, I would have had to decline the offer. Luckily, they never did, and one of them is now on its fourth failed search since then.

What I want to hear from search firm companies is something more in-depth than what is found in this article. This is the basic stuff; where is the advanced information. Where is the stuff that says, "You understand what the role of a modern dean is. You have been leading a department for 5+ years, increasing retention, SCH, faculty publications, grants, etc. during that entire time. Here is what you need to do to get a good interview." Can you provide that kind of information?

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